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Well look at that, rear 18x8.5 style 135 wheels will clear the front 996 brakes with a 3mm spacer. That makes a perfect et47 front offset. If only there was an 18x9.5 et45 or so to match in the rear for a CSL 235/265 stagger. Barrel clearance is the same as my 17” Apex wheels.
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Originally posted by Bry5on View Post
One of the tunes was done remotelyso yes it is an option!
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Originally posted by Bry5on View Post
I tuned my car that has the OEM CSL setup and SSv1s and downloaded the tune to the two M3s without any changes. My WOT tunes also target different interpolation RPMs to get the flattest AFR curve I could after several iterations with the wideband O2 sensor and CAN datalogging (both faster and higher sample rate than Testo). Timing and knock sensitivity are not quite as aggressive as some of the aftermarket tuners, I’d rather have less risk of damaging the motor than 5 extra horsepower.
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Originally posted by 0-60motorsports View PostDid you tune two M3s with the OEM CSL setup and SSV1's or just one? if two were there differences in the tune between the two? Im guessing yes if you were custom tuning both.
Great work on the tuning.Last edited by Bry5on; 05-12-2024, 10:27 PM.
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Did you tune two M3s with the OEM CSL setup and SSV1's or just one? if two were there differences in the tune between the two? Im guessing yes if you were custom tuning both.
Great work on the tuning.
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Well we've now got a total of 4 cars (two 332it wagons, two M3s) with the Mullet Tune and so far the feedback from the 3 with OEM CSL setup and SSv1 headers is that it's working quite well, no more funky low RPM or throttle blipping behavior. Next up we'll get another 332i sedan setup with stock M3 headers (same as the second 332it) and we can make sure the tune works just as well on those cars. Very pleased with this, it's no longer the end of the world if you catch yourself at low rpm and need some torque.
Here are a few pictures of the car being enjoyed as it should be (among friends)!
I can't stress enough how much of a blast it is to blast down some trails on the mountain bike, then hammer on the car through the mountain twisties on the way home. Having the bike on the back really helps it hook up on the throttle, a little bit of that 911 feeling. The bike and hitch are about 90lb together and give it a 46.5/53.5 F/R weight balance (49/51 without) (a 991 Porsche 911 is 42/58, and a cayman is 47/53). It's the absolute greatest.
The AVIN head unit crapped out on me, so I bit the bullet and ordered an XTRONS. The XTRONS is significantly better and easier to use, more polished (although not perfect, it's much better). Since this has a nice EQ, I broke out the UMIK-1 microphone and REW (Room EQ Wizard) to correct the frequency response. This car has BavSound speakers, so if you're looking to grab these settings, be sure to make sure you have a wagon with HK and BavSound speakers first!
On to the data:
Frequency response of the system set (both 1/3 and 1/6 smoothing shown):
- Flat with HK off (red)
- EQ applied with HK off (green)
- EQ applied with HK on (purple)
RT60 Decay response (after EQ):
Spectrogram plot that highlights in-cabin resonances (after EQ):
And the EQ settings:
Plus a little rear bass bump (not included in any of the EQ plots above) because the woofers in the wagon are on the rear channel, facing the tailgate:
Overall happy with the XTRONs unit now, and I prefer all of the response tweaks that the HK system adds even after EQing with it off - it really does appear pretty well tuned to the e46 cabin and speaker placements.Last edited by Bry5on; 05-12-2024, 05:38 PM.
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Originally posted by Bry5on View PostWell, the Mullet Tune is an absolute resounding success! This morning, I removed the stock airbox, added some extra foam where the filter didn't seal well (there was sand behind the filter!), then reassembled with the CSL airbox. I also measured the length of the trumpets in an effort to calculate any shift in peak power resonance. The trumpets in the stock airbox and the CSL airbox are nearly identical in length, so I had even more positive reinforcement that the Mullet would be a likely success.
After that, I uploaded the Mullet Tune and went out for a drive. From v1, I only had to make a couple corrections: pull a degree of timing out from 1900-2200rpm at WOT, and tune the exhaust cam advance around 3700-3800rpm under mid-throttle. I haven't touched the fuel maps yet, but it's just about on the money as is.
It works exactly as expected, smooth like a stock M3 down low, and rips like before up top. Downshift blips are doing just what the pedal asks for, super repeatably and responsively, there's no lumpiness in the rev band under 3k anywhere, and you can go WOT at any time without pinging. I had a good long 6th gear uphill WOT pull from 1200rpm to 3100rpm that was smooth sailing the whole way. Tip-in is smooth and not jerky, making shifting a little smoother and easier. I was enjoying driving around at low revs nice and quietly, and finding excuses to downshift from every perceivable rpm just to get the satisfaction of solving the CSL tune issues. So this is the hot ticket for a bolt-on CSL conversion! This really increases the jeckyl/hyde nature of the car even more, it's so docile and smooth around town, but when that valve opens at 3300rpm, the game changes. A solid fix!
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Originally posted by maupineda View PostIs the MSS70 in your scope :P. This is very cool an methodical approach as it should, and if fact, as is done in product development.
The tune is pretty well dialed in now, I'm hitting 14.7 +/-.3 AFR (2%) in pretty much every cell in the map and I've got WOT holding steady around 12.5:1, trending down to 12:1 at redline. Cold starts and idling is nice and smooth. All said, it didn't take much to make it perfect after all of the other map work!
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Is the MSS70 in your scope :P. This is very cool an methodical approach as it should, and if fact, as is done in product development.
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Originally posted by karter16 View Post
Very exciting,
Do I take that to mean this is something you're planning to offer once it's “finished”?
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Originally posted by Bry5on View Post
More than could be an option, it IS an option!
I'm a couple more tweaks in and I've dialed both cold start idle and warm idle pretty well now. I'm within ~2% of nailing warm idle by the AFR gauge, so I think it's ready for a full fledged part throttle tuning session now. It really doesn't feel like it needs it, so I'm not exactly making that a high priority.
Do I take that to mean this is something you're planning to offer once it's “finished”?
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Originally posted by karter16 View PostVery cool! Funny I was thinking the other day that it's a shame we don't have an off the shelf option for CSL airbox with M3 cams - your work is proof that this could be an option!
I'm a couple more tweaks in and I've dialed both cold start idle and warm idle pretty well now. I'm within ~2% of nailing warm idle by the AFR gauge, so I think it's ready for a full fledged part throttle tuning session now. It really doesn't feel like it needs it, so I'm not exactly making that a high priority.
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Very cool! Funny I was thinking the other day that it's a shame we don't have an off the shelf option for CSL airbox with M3 cams - your work is proof that this could be an option!
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Thats awesome! You really need to start doing tuning LOL
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