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  • jet_dogg
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    It's funny to me how people are still holding out hope that bmw will create a proper car once again.

    It's a wrap folks, it's been a wrap.

    PS. I think that's the only dude left in M division that Harris referenced.

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  • TexaZ3
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    Not interested in anything BMW made after E-series. Complete shift in philosophy and product lineup. Good or bad - I don't know. All I know it does not appeal to me.

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  • Jimbo's M
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    Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

    At least they didn't go with the ridiculous triangle exhaust
    AFAIC, Irrelevant. That grill is still just about the most hideous front end design I've ever seen. Could be the greatest car ever built, and I wouldn't touch it with a ten-foot toothbrush.



    So glad I have an E46 M...

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  • 01SG
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    You cannot even compare this to a Gt4. That is the perfect example of how BMW diverged.

    The E46 CSL and 996 gt3 were comparable in weight. This new CSL has closer to a thousand pounds than not on the Gt4, and five-hundred on the Gt3. The M2 is not much better.

    Not surprisingly, the E46 was within a few seconds of the 996 on the ring, flawed metric as that is. The new CSL would not see which way any Porsche GT went. The 991 was significantly faster five years ago.

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  • bmwfnatic
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    The only thing that came to mind when I read about it, is if it perhaps had some cool special huge brakes we could install on the E46 :P

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  • thegenius46m
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    Hot garbage.

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  • eacmen
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    Originally posted by Slideways View Post

    Don't go putting that on your E46 lol

    Challenge accepted.

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  • sina
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    Not surprised to see this from the company that repurposed the M3 badge, probably one of the most significant nameplates in history that any other manufacturer would kill to have. Then they diluted M down to basically complete irrelevancy throughout their lineup. And now a 3700 "Leichtbau." Just one more badge for them to milk.

    You'd have to be on drugs or just want to be a contrarian to buy this over a GT4.

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  • heinzboehmer
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    Originally posted by 01SG View Post
    I cannot believe they found a way to make the standard car uglier.
    At least they didn't go with the ridiculous triangle exhaust

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  • 01SG
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    I cannot believe they found a way to make the standard car uglier. And shame for the weight.
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  • oceansize
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    Top Gear on the new CSL

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  • Tbonem3
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    I like how they advertise how much weight it lost from the regular M4. Ya and? They thought 3900 for an "M" coupe was appropriate?

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  • heinzboehmer
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    The 2023 BMW M4 CSL sits atop the brand's M lineup and is also its fastest car ever around the Nürburgring with a time of 7:20.2.


    3640 lbs... More like CSXL

    That engine bay brace looks pretty hardcore though. $10 says those bolts up front are torque to yield and will need to be replaced every time you want to any work in the engine bay lol.

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  • m3nt0s
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    BMW has been irrelevant for roughly a decade at this point, and that's only if you want to entertain the late E9x era. This is no different.

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  • 01M3Fan
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    Not interested at all - too big and too heavy & numb (never mind ugly). Although turbo motors make crazy torque and power - I didn't like how the they felt. Sold my '11 335 and my '16 F80 and keeping the '01 and in process of building full up E46 Touring.

    I went to BMW auto cross event with the new electric cars - heavy! Saw the new 2 series, so much for the M2 being the new E46 - bigger again...

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