A quick and easy way to street tune your CSL conversion for drivability.

[SliM3]

Logic would dictate that setting the flap to 10k would run the engine lean at part throttle as the part throttle fueling maps don't seem to get touched by tuners. If you don't have a tune then this is even easier. Personally I'd rather stay on the safe side and target stoich like the factory did, or even a little rich, at higher loads (which is where the flap map has an effect).

If you want to make life harder for yourself, you can zero the flap map then apply more fuel in the main map in the same places. This would have the same effect.

A leaner burn at high loads will tend to run hotter with no power gain. No reason to run lean in that part of the map IMO.

More than one way to skin a cat when it comes to this stuff, for sure. I tend to target the map that directly controls the specific function because a lot of these parameters interact with one another and a change in one spot can have an inadvertent change somewhere else.


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[Bry5on]

Logic would dictate that setting the flap to 10k would run the engine lean at part throttle as the part throttle fueling maps don’t seem to get touched by tuners. If you don’t have a tune then this is even easier. Personally I’d rather stay on the safe side and target stoich like the factory did, or even a little rich, at higher loads (which is where the flap map has an effect).

If you want to make life harder for yourself, you can zero the flap map then apply more fuel in the main map in the same places. This would have the same effect.

A leaner burn at high loads will tend to run hotter with no power gain. No reason to run lean in that part of the map IMO.

[Slideways]

Set to 10K. This will force the DME to operate as if the flap is closed and will only use the main VE map, as opposed to running the flap as "full open" which factors in the supplemental map.

Will that limit power from 3.3k to 8k? All the CSL modified tunes typically have the default flap settings, which makes me think that they are tuned like this. Guessing that the tuners are changing the main VE map and leaving the flap supplemental map alone.

[SliM3]

Should the flap RPM be set to 0 or at or around 900?

Set to 10K. This will force the DME to operate as if the flap is closed and will only use the main VE map, as opposed to running the flap as "full open" which factors in the supplemental map.

[Bry5on]

Where I can find this config?

I’ve not done it in over a decade (code an e36 s54 swap) so my memory is rusty, but most of the info is available online these days with some thorough googling. You should be able to perform the changes using TunerPro since XDFs exist now. Back in the day it was all done in hex editors!

[Simas306]

That question is officially past my pay grade. I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t use the Z3M/e36 configs where it gets speed signal from the diff. Gear is calculated from speed signal in both cars.

Where I can find this config?

[heinzboehmer]

Should the flap RPM be set to 0 or at or around 900?

I would guess the end result is the same, but haven't personally tested.

[Bry5on]

But did it used this map before I made flap open all the time? It is swapped in E36 so it doesn't see gear or speed and I used comfort for mapping on dyno which is set 9k rpm opening by default from neutral to 2nd gear.

If not it might be running rich up top now

That question is officially past my pay grade. I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t use the Z3M/e36 configs where it gets speed signal from the diff. Gear is calculated from speed signal in both cars.

[Simas306]

You want the compensation at higher loads all the time. If you zero the whole map, you will not get enough fuel until you do a full retune again. The map has no effect whatsoever where the cells are zero. Zeroing that map will only make your life harder! Looks like yours is running with the correct amount of fuel pretty much everywhere, although I’m surprised that solved your bucking issues.

But did it used this map before I made flap open all the time? It is swapped in E36 so it doesn't see gear or speed and I used comfort for mapping on dyno which is set 9k rpm opening by default from neutral to 2nd gear.

If not it might be running rich up top now

[Slideways]

Should the flap RPM be set to 0 or at or around 900?

[heinzboehmer]

Also I did the logging as author suggested, after a good long drive my log wasn't that far off (1-5%) but the problem that I can't save Density map with decimals, it would only allow me to save if round the numbers. Is that normal? In author video he shows saving with decimal values

Change the type from int to float. I think I posted up more details in one of my earlier posts.

[Bry5on]

You want the compensation at higher loads all the time. If you zero the whole map, you will not get enough fuel until you do a full retune again. The map has no effect whatsoever where the cells are zero. Zeroing that map will only make your life harder! Looks like yours is running with the correct amount of fuel pretty much everywhere, although I’m surprised that solved your bucking issues.

[Simas306]

So I did a run with flaps turned open all the time and most the bucking I had in 2-3k rpm is gone, the flap comp map is mostly 0 but I still wonder if it worth trying to make it all 0? As it would still compensate



Also I did the logging as author suggested, after a good long drive my log wasn't that far off (1-5%) but the problem that I can't save Density map with decimals, it would only allow me to save if round the numbers. Is that normal? In author video he shows saving with decimal values

[Bry5on]

If you set the flaps to always open in both comfort and sport, that will keep the enrichment settings on at all times, which is probably what you want since you’re essentially running open flap at all times.

[heinzboehmer]

Can someone tell me which table is for disabling flaps enrichment? I did comfort and sport to make them always open

If you use the xdf linked in the video from the first post, it's called "Density Correction_VOLUMETRIC EFFICIENCY (RF) - CSL FLAP COMP".