Best Feeling BBK?

[eacmen]

Background: old car had front 332mm ST BBK with stock rears. Current car is stock all around with brash bushings. In both cars I never felt like the brakes were confidence inspiring.

Currently I am planning to rebuild all the stock calipers and swap the MC to see if the pedal feel improves. But if that goes south I would entertain going the BBK route.

My question to the group is what brake kits out there have you upgraded to that have the best pedal FEEL? I don't care much about size or looks, and not even paper specs as to stopping power. I am looking for the best pedal feel and driver feedback. Curious what people's opinions are.

TIA

[SandeepM3]

The brems

Amazing feel and very confidence inpiring. I have had multiple instructors in the past comment on how amazing they thought the brakes are because how much they could feel the modulation from me.

[eacmen]

The brems

Amazing feel and very confidence inpiring. I have had multiple instructors in the past comment on how amazing they thought the brakes are because how much they could feel the modulation from me.

Using the 996 brembos?

[SandeepM3]

Brembo GT kit

[sc_tr0jan_m3]

Very happy with AP from Essex.


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[thegenius46m]

Very happy with AP from Essex.


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This would be my number 1 choice no question. AP has the racing heritage and that kit is no joke.

[Martyn]

I disliked the pedal feel on my 996/boxster setup. However I love the feel of the full M4 brake setup.

[pMak26]

+1 on Brembo's GT kit. I have the F40 version which is 4pot front @ 355x32 and 4 pot rear @ 345x28. The parts are expensive but the feel is 2nd to none. You do get what you pay for. Same exact calipers on my viper and the braking on that is insane with so much tire available. I have an extensive parts # break down if you want it.

[eacmen]

+1 on Brembo's GT kit. I have the F40 version which is 4pot front @ 355x32 and 4 pot rear @ 345x28. The parts are expensive but the feel is 2nd to none. You do get what you pay for. Same exact calipers on my viper and the braking on that is insane with so much tire available. I have an extensive parts # break down if you want it.

That would be great. Also curious if you’ve done the brake bias calculation. Trying to get close to CSL/ZCP bias.

[S14]

I disliked the pedal feel on my 996/boxster setup. However I love the feel of the full M4 brake setup.

What didn't you like? What pads are you running on both setups?

[pMak26]

That would be great. Also curious if you’ve done the brake bias calculation. Trying to get close to CSL/ZCP bias.

It's a good question, I'm not actually sure. I suppose I could try and calculate it. The front pistons are 36mm and 40mm and the rears are 28mm and 30mm.
What is the stock split and what are the stock piston sizes?
edit:
MK60-based vehicles, Front: 25mm, Rear: 22mm (post-09/2002) (1:54.1 Stock Bias – 60.6%F 39.4%R)
MK20-based vehicles, Front: 25mm, Rear: 20mm (pre-09/2002) (1.27:1 Stock Brake Bias – 56.0%F 44.0%R)

[r4dr]

Has anyone had firsthand experience comparing the Brembo kit with a ST Trophy kit?

[S14]

That would be great. Also curious if you’ve done the brake bias calculation. Trying to get close to CSL/ZCP bias.

This chart is pretty comprehensive and takes into consideration pad size and rotor size to calculate bias, not just piston size. I haven't done the math though, so I have no idea if it's accurate or not.

https://thebuildjournal.com/tech-guides/brake-bias-chart-e46-m3/

[Obioban]

Another vote for the Brembo GT kit.

Not the 996 kit (I previously ran the brembo GT kit and am now running the 996 setup (because FCP), so I can say that with confidence).
The brembos also have much better feel than the Stoptechs (I have them on another car), and the rotors last 2-3x as long as stoptech's.

[r4dr]

The StopTech rings are definitely the weakest part of their Trophy kits. Those calipers are actually pretty nice, but I'd buy different rings after the initial set.