BMW Performance Brakesystem

[Levente]

Would you guys suggest these brakes for the csl? Its BMW Performance Brakes 6 piston

[E46CSL]

Depends if they are good as AP's, Brembos, Alcons & would fitting these to a CSL still count as a modification?

[mattCSLnut]

Depends if they are good as AP's, Brembos, Alcons & would fitting these to a CSL still count as a modification?

IIRC they are made by "BREMBO" for BMW Performance range. I've heard they are OK for fast road use (a vast improvement over the stock single piston nonsense ) but not so good for prolonged TD work... something to do with piston seals melting out :banghead:

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Really good brakes then :hahaha::hahaha:

[Martin_BG]

Levente you may wanna contact this guy http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=393210 for some more info :beer:
Wonder, why will he take them off....:whistle:

[Bounce]

Dont think they fit straight onto a CSL.

[mattCSLnut]

Dont think they fit straight onto a CSL.

IIRC extra bracket solutions are required :banghead:

[Bounce]

IIRC extra bracket solutions are required :banghead:

Thought so,as i looked into getting them:banghead: did you need extra brackets with yours Matt.

[Bounce]

Price includes CSL discs http://www.bmminiparts.com/PartDetai...3-415E3EAC67D1

[mattCSLnut]

Thought so,as i looked into getting them:banghead: did you need extra brackets with yours Matt.

Yep :smokin:

[Levente]

thanks for the info, i want to buy it in one of the BMW service in München, hopefully it doesnt cost as much as the Brembo Gran Turismo brakes. Is it possible to buy it seperate , i mean buy Replace only the front brakes, and replace the back ones later? I cant belive the stock csl brakes are so crap

[mattCSLnut]

thanks for the info... I cant belive the stock csl brakes are so crap

It's mainly the CSL OEM pads that are so crap. Put some decent after market pads like PAGID or Performance Friction then change your OEM rubber brake lines to Goodridge stainless steel lines and maybe upgrade your brake fluid to ATS Super Blue Racing or MOTUL RBF 660.
Any of these three simple mods or the combination of all three will vastly improve the OEM crapness :clown: and will be perfect for every day/fast road use as well as occasional Track Day :smokin:

[shimmy]

It's mainly the CSL OEM pads that are so crap. Put some decent after market pads like PAGID or Performance Friction then change your OEM rubber brake lines to Goodridge stainless steel lines and maybe upgrade your brake fluid to ATS Super Blue Racing or MOTUL RBF 660.
Any of these three simple mods or the combination of all three will vastly improve the OEM crapness :clown: and will be perfect for every day/fast road use as well as occasional Track Day :smokin:

I disagree a little Matt, it's the cooling of the whole system that's not up to much. Stopping power is ok, but heat just ruins them on track.

[Levente]

It's mainly the CSL OEM pads that are so crap. Put some decent after market pads like PAGID or Performance Friction then change your OEM rubber brake lines to Goodridge stainless steel lines and maybe upgrade your brake fluid to ATS Super Blue Racing or MOTUL RBF 660.
Any of these three simple mods or the combination of all three will vastly improve the OEM crapness :clown: and will be perfect for every day/fast road use as well as occasional Track Day :smokin:

not only the pads, but only one piston brakes? what were they thinking? im suprised about the brakedistance from 100 km/h is 33meter. Well they say that

[mattCSLnut]

I disagree a little Matt, it's the cooling of the whole system that's not up to much. Stopping power is ok, but heat just ruins them on track.

And I agree additional cooling (mainly @ the front) would be a welcomed addition on the M3/CSL but as we all know the OEM pads shit themselves even on a public road after repeated use.
By upgrading to AP Racing, BREMBO, etc we are still left with cooling issues, are we not ?