phew , I'm safe ... no xenons or parking sensors on mine either :hahaha::gayfight:
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I assume this is the one Lawsy bought and then subsequently binned?Originally posted by Neil M View PostThere were indeed 3 option-less cars as has been stated, all 3 were SG's.
One was sold in late 2012 by a chap called Lee that lived in Cheshire, a 1 owner car with 91,000K the asking price was then £22,500.
Less isn't always more - or is it? :whistle:
As per Matt's #7 post
Wonder how much Nick is wanting for this? http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/bmw-m3-csl-2004-53-5980-miles-concours-collectors-example/2315676?isexperiment=true Also, no mention of price on his optionless one? http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e46-m3-00-06/m3-csl-17000
And as per your #13 post, NJ was wanting £50+k for the optionless one last time.
If your reading this Nick, you need to double it this time
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Surely if the manufacturer had intended the cars to not have certain features they wouldn't have offered them. For example sunroof, heated leather electric seats or sat nav.Originally posted by bryce View PostI think some are missing the point here. Whether it's now or 20 years down the the line, the optionless cars will become the most sought after as that's as the manufacturer intended. Anyone who follows the car market knows this.
You could apply that theory to any poverty spec model of any car and it doesn't always follow.
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The CSL is not a normal car though, it is a low production special edition, so your poverty spec comment does not apply here. It was designed to be as light as possible and all about the driving experience - that means no extras. Manufacturers provide options for customers on normal cars to make more money - simple.Originally posted by MisterCorn View PostSurely if the manufacturer had intended the cars to not have certain features they wouldn't have offered them. For example sunroof, heated leather electric seats or sat nav.
You could apply that theory to any poverty spec model of any car and it doesn't always follow.
MC
And to back up the point there was a GT3 RS for sale with no cage and the company struggled to sell it. Why? Because Porsche designed it to be ultimate track day car so supplied bucket seats, cage and harnesses as standard. There was an option to delete the cage and that specific car paid the price because why would you want an RS without a cage?
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I personally don't buy this. The CSL came out as one edition-it did not have an official sport/stripped out or "more" lightweight version vs a "comfort" version so we're talking about the same car. Adding/subtracting the few options here and there does not have that much of an effect. Overall condition/mileage/SH is much more important.
Furthermore adding or removing aircon/stereo and xenons, may add or remove maybe 18kgs in total however I don't expect that to have much of an effect on the price. In fact its very easy to remove the stereo and put a dummy fascia on it and it doesn't take that much to take out the xenons if you want also. Ok the aircon is more involved but that's maybe 12kg in total so not significant in weight overall. Conversely it might put off some people if there is no aircon and therefore limit its marketability(I personally wouldn't buy it without aircon). Lets not overstate this no option issue folks......
Originally posted by Scott View PostThe CSL is not a normal car though, it is a low production special edition, so your poverty spec comment does not apply here. It was designed to be as light as possible and all about the driving experience - that means no extras. Manufacturers provide options for customers on normal cars to make more money - simple.
And to back up the point there was a GT3 RS for sale with no cage and the company struggled to sell it. Why? Because Porsche designed it to be ultimate track day car so supplied bucket seats, cage and harnesses as standard. There was an option to delete the cage and that specific car paid the price because why would you want an RS without a cage?
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