Hey there Mates!

[DuncanR]

I wondered if i could avoid a bigger oil cooler by running coated manifold but wasnt sure on the knock on effects:smokin:

With my limited experience and Knowledge of such matters, and applying the KISS rule, I would imagine that the oil cooler path is more cost effective and has a far more direct impact on dropping the oil temp, wouldnt you ? ....well wouldnt you ? :smt102

[CraigMillwardCroft]

What is the KISS rule ?? :thumbs:

[DuncanR]

What is the KISS rule ?? :thumbs:

Keep it simple stupid

[CraigMillwardCroft]

:hahaha::hahaha::hahaha:

[shimmy]

With my limited experience and Knowledge of such matters, and applying the KISS rule, I would imagine that the oil cooler path is more cost effective and has a far more direct impact on dropping the oil temp, wouldnt you ? ....well wouldnt you ? :smt102

have you ever felt how hot the manifold gets!

[DuncanR]

have you ever felt how hot the manifold gets!

Dont be a cooont ! I would burn myself !!:hahaha:

[shimmy]

Dont be a cooont ! I would burn myself !!:hahaha:

use your head, best keep vital organs clear :smokin:

[DuncanR]

have you ever felt how hot the manifold gets!

Dont be a cooont ! I would burn myself !!:hahaha:

[The Gorilla]

Hi,

Quote-

''What are your thoughts on "coated" exhausts. And any science behind it G man?

We had a discussion about this the other day in work.

Pro';s and cons.


I think it was Super Sprint that played around with
'Coated' and 'Ceramics' on Manifolds and Exhausts
a while ago.

The issue many forget, is that most F1 Cars,
Race Cars and Bikes in the higher echelon of
Motorsport are running something like
0.8mm side wall thickness Inconnel Headers,
exhausts pipes etc.

So Heat is a big problem, more so where
it can transfer and cause heat soak to
materials like Carbon, plastics, nylons etc
all frequetly used in modern day race cars.

Hence the need to contain the exhaust
heat as much and where ever possible.

On a street/track car, then under bonnet
temps will be down some, but as to if
this makes a little more power is just a
subjective view, pending where you sit.

If I was selling Coatings, then of course it
would assist in making more power,
better exhaust scavange, lower oil
temps, and so on.

As I am not, then my personal view is
that its just another product being used
in Motorsport under totally different
conditions and circumstances, which is now
offered and sold to the public at large on
the basis F1 / Motorsport has it, and the
leemings as always will follow.

A drop in ambinet under bonnet temp by say
20 degrees will do nothing at all to your
oil temp when static, even less at full chat.


Regards,

The Gorilla

[Bounce]

Dont be a cooont ! I would burn myself !!:hahaha:

:hahaha::hahaha:

[shane@mbtech]

Hi,

Quote-

''What are your thoughts on "coated" exhausts. And any science behind it G man?

We had a discussion about this the other day in work.

Pro';s and cons.


I think it was Super Sprint that played around with
'Coated' and 'Ceramics' on Manifolds and Exhausts
a while ago.

The issue many forget, is that most F1 Cars,
Race Cars and Bikes in the higher echelon of
Motorsport are running something like
0.8mm side wall thickness Inconnel Headers,
exhausts pipes etc.

So Heat is a big problem, more so where
it can transfer and cause heat soak to
materials like Carbon, plastics, nylons etc
all frequetly used in modern day race cars.

Hence the need to contain the exhaust
heat as much and where ever possible.

On a street/track car, then under bonnet
temps will be down some, but as to if
this makes a little more power is just a
subjective view, pending where you sit.

If I was selling Coatings, then of course it
would assist in making more power,
better exhaust scavange, lower oil
temps, and so on.

As I am not, then my personal view is
that its just another product being used
in Motorsport under totally different
conditions and circumstances, which is now
offered and sold to the public at large on
the basis F1 / Motorsport has it, and the
leemings as always will follow.

A drop in ambinet under bonnet temp by say
20 degrees will do nothing at all to your
oil temp when static, even less at full chat.


Regards,

The Gorilla

Have you datalogged this, or is it just your "opinion".

At times, i think there are benefits, then I think there are none.
With regards to your quote re the ambient temps.
Tesco say that every little helps.

[AlexGTT]

It'll make next to no difference the oil temps. There are slight benefits as outlined by The Gorilla. I have a fair amount of experience with ceramic coated exhausts as we use them a lot on the cars we work on but that is only because of the close proximity of carburettors/fuel lines, etc. They help a lot with fuel percolation issues. The issue is fairly well illustrated in the following picture, although this is before we coated the manifold.

I'd be more inclined to used ceramic coating on turbochaged road cars but less so on N/A.

[Dafoe]

Csl cams

Hey Fellas!

The M3 is running strong as ever! The headers are good, the Evolve Airbox is better, but what I am need of now, without breaking the bank, is a set of CSL cams!

If ANYONE can help a friend from across the pond acquire a set of good CSL cams, I would be MOST Grateful!!

Hope all is well with everyone!

Dave