G82 and E46 side by side

[Mr. Wolfe]

Absolutely laughable, embarrassing, and ridiculous.

Mr. Wolfe

[usdmej]

I love hot takes as much as the next guy, but this one is not even half-baked. You can still buy a facking Mistubishi Mirage in the US and it meets all crash standards and regulations. You cant blame the guvment for everything wrong in the auto world lol.

the mirage, while crappy now, is still way bigger/heavier than previous generations, just like nearly every vehicle sold here

[lemoose]

the mirage, while crappy now, is still way bigger/heavier than previous generations, just like nearly every vehicle sold here

i didnt use the mirage as an example of a car that hasn't gotten larger throughout the years- i used it as an example against the claim that cars have to be a certain size to meet modern safety regulations.

[usdmej]

i didnt use the mirage as an example of a car that hasn't gotten larger throughout the years- i used it as an example against the claim that cars have to be a certain size to meet modern safety regulations.

that's a weird example then because you could have picked a smaller car. his point was that government regulations make cars bigger which is for the most part true

[lemoose]

that's a weird example then because you could have picked a smaller car. his point was that government regulations make cars bigger which is for the most part true

I dont really follow what the smallest road legal car is year over year but what i do know is that the current mirage meets current regulations although its smaller than the e46 m3. Astute observation, though!

[usdmej]

what i do know is that the current mirage meets current regulations although its smaller than the e46 m3

do you know that a modern day mirage doesn't outperform an E46 M3?

[lemoose]

do you know that a modern day mirage doesn't outperform an E46 M3?

Dude my only point is that the g82 size isnt due to safety requirements

[Syfon]

They keep getting bigger with every generation

[rbg]

Unfortunately it is very difficult to capture it by taking a photo of side by side parked cars, depends on angle so much… I tried it and can make either look bigger or smaller.

[usdmej]

Dude my only point is that the g82 size isnt due to safety requirements

current govt regulations most definitely contribute to the 3 series being the size it is.
just look how cars need to have crumple ones for when they crash into pedestrians. if bmw sticks with the same inline 6, that means they have to increase the space inbetween the engine and hood/bumper. the car gets larger in the front and they definitely will make it bigger everywhere else to match. manufactures almost never make the next generation of a vehicle smaller. they usually introduce a smaller vehicle to fill the gap created (2 series)

[jet_dogg]

Here we go again...

[lemoose]

current govt regulations most definitely contribute to the 3 series being the size it is.
just look how cars need to have crumple ones for when they crash into pedestrians. if bmw sticks with the same inline 6, that means they have to increase the space inbetween the engine and hood/bumper. the car gets larger in the front and they definitely will make it bigger everywhere else to match. manufactures almost never make the next generation of a vehicle smaller. they usually introduce a smaller vehicle to fill the gap created (2 series)

Youre making my point… BMW concurrently sells a 2 series with a 3.0 I6 that meets all these regulations.

[usdmej]

Youre making my point… BMW concurrently sells a 2 series with a 3.0 I6 that meets all these regulations.

Yes, created because they were never going to make the 3 series that small ever again
govt regulations are definitely a reason the g82 is the size that it is now

[lemoose]

Yes, created because they were never going to make the 3 series that small ever again
govt regulations are definitely a reason the g82 is the size that it is now

So why do these same regulations not apply to the 2 series chassis?

[bmw m3 s50]

Yes, created because they were never going to make the 3 series that small ever again
govt regulations are definitely a reason the g82 is the size that it is now

Hey piece of advice, just leave it alone. I have stopped responding to his comments because he is obsessed with the mirage and 2 series examples which are not the point. He does not understand the concept of generation differences only car model differences. The majority of cars have gotten bigger because of what you said as well as needing to room to fit more options/tech. Additionally another factor is due to fuel and emissions standards which go off a car’s overall footprint. I mean it’s clear as day that all car manufacturers should be increasing size and weight because that’s how you increase performance and efficiency, isn’t it? Why else would they arbitrarily increase car size, so obvious.

Also to all the members pointing out cars that may have smaller dimensions then their previous generations, nothing is absolute. The vast majority of the newer generation car models is due to the reasons mentioned in this thread.