Community Feedback Requested Re: EuroConnex / Epoustouflant

[natty99]

IMO it’s absolutely against the spirit of GB not to post open pricing. There should be no reason to give up personal information just to see if you’re interested at the price point. It’s gotten to the point where I no longer even click the thread once I see who’s GB it is. Whether the product it amazing or not, I won’t be playing the data collection game.


This is coming from someone that ran a handful of GB’s on M3f.

100% my thoughts exactly

[jet_dogg]

yea just let him be a business here, he wouldn't be here giving exposure to new products unless it came with his group buy so why treat him like an enthusiast?

Seems to me the line is attempting to be blurred. There's nothing wrong with running a business but let's face it, these are luxury mods for m3s, not a bluetooth adapter (for example) filling a much needed void bringing a chassis into modernity created by an enthusiast for enthusiasts. This is commercial posting under the guise of "helping people".

Those who are interested will simply continue to follow in the vendor forum, pretty straightforward.

[sc_tr0jan_m3]

Let the man continue to GB on the forum.

Personally I already follow him on other social media sites and love seeing all the products he brings to the community.

Keeping this thread open for much longer just won’t be productive.


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[aapilcher]

Per the original topic of this thread, I’d like to see Epoustouflant continue to seek out cool stuff for the e46 platform and I hope typical forum negativity doesn’t spur him to abandon the pursuit. I haven’t bought anything via Connex (yet; I backed out of the CSL diffuser GB and he was very gracious about it) but I look forward to seeing his future group buys. Seems like he listens and finds unique offerings for us enthusiasts.

[Epoustouflant]

the heck, it was in my first post, the guy even quoted me saying it

i don't make the rules here, and you are your own human being so you can come and go as you please

That is the vendor treatment per these rules.

2) If you’re having a sale, promotion, etc, we have a vendor sales section in the classifieds

You want a buying methodology that is dependent on participation thresholds to unlock lower prices to be pushed to a low visibility section of the website - i.e.: the vendor section.

It's safe to assume group buys & crowdfunding will be less popular, and thus, less valuable (and potentially complete failures) for the community (you, brands, me).

Who wins?

[usdmej]

usdmej

Cut to the chase and state what you want the forum to do in plain sentences.

You choose usdmej

the heck, it was in my first post, the guy even quoted me saying it

overall the community does benefit from the discounts he gets. i just think he needs to be treated like a vendor

i don't make the rules here, and you are your own human being so you can come and go as you please

[Epoustouflant]

i said a fellow enthusiast, i still maintain that he's only here specifically to sell group buys. i haven't metrics on his account like he's done to mine, but i wouldn't be surprised if the majority of his posts were to push his group buys

Still haven't defined what is a fellow enthusiast! Let me help.

Do I need an E46 M3 to be considered eligible to run group buys for E46 M3 parts?

It's a Y/N question, and it will correlate 1:1 as an answer to this question you've also avoided.

[usdmej]

You asked

my main rub is the shadow games and wheeling and dealing that epoustouflant does under the guise that he's a fellow enthusiast

i said a fellow enthusiast, i still maintain that he's only here specifically to sell group buys. i haven't metrics on his account like he's done to mine, but i wouldn't be surprised if the majority of his posts were to push his group buys

[Epoustouflant]

it would be off topic for us to have a discussion in this thread, which is centered mainly on you

As we’re on the topic of rules.

Historically, these questions might expose things you might not have chosen to bring to light. As you are not (and can’t be) a paid sponsor, no protections are offered. That said, people that are being obnoxious for the sake of being obnoxious will be dealt with.

I welcome the first part. I’d love to hear other members perspective on your latest posts and if they feel it corresponds to the second part of these rules.

I will gladly close my account on this forum if that is what you decide, and you only.

I do not need to feel like a pariah, it is counter productive to what I seek to build.

You choose usdmej

[oceansize]

usdmej

Cut to the chase and state what you want the forum to do in plain sentences.

[oceansize]

this appears to be the only question you've asked me?

when did i say you weren't an enthusiast?

You asked

my main rub is the shadow games and wheeling and dealing that epoustouflant does under the guise that he's a fellow enthusiast

[usdmej]

A genuine discussion with you is, as it always is, impossible to be had - at least now it’s for everyone to see.

it would be off topic for us to have a discussion in this thread, which is centered mainly on you

[Epoustouflant]

safe to say you wouldn't be on this forum if you weren't selling something

I laid out why I first registered here and how it came to me being active here. I can confirm I wasn’t selling anything - the GB had already been shared by Obioban himself.

It was ironically a GB with “spirit” where having more quantity with E46 M3 “fellow” enthusiasts allowed all M3 owners to save more.

You’re still not answering any questions I ask. A genuine discussion with you is, as it always is, impossible to be had - at least now it’s for everyone to see.

[usdmej]

safe to say you wouldn't be on this forum if you weren't selling something

[Epoustouflant]

this appears to be the only question you've asked me?

when did i say you weren't an enthusiast?

Seems pretty clear you think I use the “enthusiast” moniker as a disguise.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dict...e%20guise%20of

by saying or acting as if something is other than what it really is

i'm not arguing against entrepreneurship on this forum. for example, watching t3ddftw expand our knowledge base while developing his BlueBus product is a great example of what forums can offer that social media can't. my main rub is the shadow games and wheeling and dealing that epoustouflant does under the guise that he's a fellow enthusiast

i wasn't saying that he actually had multiple accounts, but he does refer to himself and EuroConnex as different entities depending on how it suits him which i find petty as a forum member and deceiving as a vendor

Let’s slice it another way; do you think I would have built EuroConnex if I wasn’t a BMW M enthusiast and owner?