VinceBar installation videos and celebratory discount

[VinceSE2]

Today I’m happy to announce two pieces of exciting information 😊

Firstly I’ve just completed an installation video of a simplified design epoxy/rivet-in VinceBar kit in a Touring. There’s more on the video further down in phis post, but here are two screenshots




Secondly the Practical Performance Facebook page www.Facebook.com/pprndnews just hit 1000 followers! This means that the 10% offer (as described in this post https://www.facebook.com/72205743465...597522472/?d=n) is now live.

Please note that this discount offer is valid during the month of October and limited to just 10 simplified design VinceBar kits. Your choice of the weld-in or epoxy/rivet-in version.

EDIT: I’ve also decided to apply the discount to the tooling kit (when ordered with a simplified VinceBar kit) and shipping.
This makes the discounted total for the VinceBar kit, tooling kit and shipping just 780 USD!


Back to the installation video.

For simplicity of viewing I split it into the three following parts:
• Part 1 includes hole cutting and preparation for the front gusset cups.

https://youtu.be/wwvenFMtZvY

• Part 2 includes hole cutting and preparation for the rear bar as well as surface preparation and epoxy bonding and riveting of the rear bar.

https://youtu.be/h3obQNY_ChI

• Part 3 includes the finishing preparation touches, and the final installation, of the front gusset cups.

https://youtu.be/s79N0DxAFro

This means that if you are installing just the front gusset cups you could watch just parts 1 and 3.

I do however recommend also watching the last 1/3 of part 2 as there is some suface prepping and gluing/riveting information that is helpful for the front gusset cups.



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[Tonggi]

This is great thank you Vince! I was starting to do my research to tackle this next step!

[VinceSE2]

This is great thank you Vince! I was starting to do my research to tackle this next step!

Excellent timing 👍
Please let me know if there are any areas you feel need more clarification once you get there


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[Cubieman]

Thank you, this is exactly what I needed to push me to install the thing. With winter comming that's going to be my main project.

[WestBankM4]

Great video Vince, I've been watching the original ones and I feel confident, this just makes it better.

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[VinceSE2]

Great video Vince, I've been watching the original ones and I feel confident, this just makes it better.

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Excellent, I’m happy to hear that 👍
It’s really not that difficult, just take your time, keep it nice and tidy/clean, and do the preparation carefully and it’s straight forward.

Thank you, this is exactly what I needed to push me to install the thing. With winter comming that's going to be my main project.

Perfect, have fun sir! 👍


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[RawS54]

For part 3, the video link is the same part 2.

Thanks for posting these videos!

[VinceSE2]

For part 3, the video link is the same part 2.

Thanks for posting these videos!

Thanks for letting me know, fixed it now 👍


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[0-60motorsports]

This is great Vince!

[t3ddftw]

Hey Vince,

After watching the videos, I have a few questions --

1. Right here: https://youtu.be/F_h1B_6ERNY?t=190 You mention welding the covering plate. Are we supposed to lay a bead around the perimeter?
2. Do you recommend VinceSkinz / Any plates even if there are no cracks present? My 325iT, like most "Station Wagons" here in the U.S., was driven predominately by old people, so I seriously doubt there are any failures present.
3. Are we to epoxy the gusset cups in place for both the weld AND rivet method?

Thanks!
-Ted

[VinceSE2]

Hey Vince,

After watching the videos, I have a few questions --

1. Right here: https://youtu.be/F_h1B_6ERNY?t=190 You mention welding the covering plate. Are we supposed to lay a bead around the perimeter?
2. Do you recommend VinceSkinz / Any plates even if there are no cracks present? My 325iT, like most "Station Wagons" here in the U.S., predominately by old people, so I seriously doubt there are any failures present.
3. Are we to epoxy the gusset cups in place for both the weld AND rivet method?

Thanks!
-Ted

Hi Ted!

There are two versions/installation methods. Either epoxy/rivet, OR weld. Never a combination.

The video you are referring to above is a sort of walk through video in which I’m explaining the concept of the VinceBar kit. And in doing so I’m talking about some of the installation aspects of both the epoxy/rivet AND the weld installations.

In these videos https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...gf2PDXswy7qyl6
i more specifically go into the installation of the epoxy/rivet version.

Would you be doing the epoxy/rivet or weld installation?

2.
If there’s TRULY no cracks or popped spot welds or separations I guess you could get away with no underside plating or VinceSkinz.

But the pre Februari 2000 built RACPs almost always have the left rear mount coming out, and the later ones have the typical hairline crack. And then there’s the buckled/dented and cracked front right…

Have a look at this post (be patient as it’s archived so it loads really slowly)

https://web.archive.org/web/20170731214304/http%3A//www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=555302

3.
NO. Either epoxy/river OR weld

I hope that cleared up your questions


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[VinceSE2]

This is great Vince!

Thanks Ejaz!

If there’s anyone on the fence, there’s one kit out of the 10 discounted ones left to go.

It’s 10% off of the VinceBar kit, the tooling kit AND the shipping.


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[t3ddftw]

NO. Either epoxy/river OR weld

Thanks, Vince! I would be looking to have it welded in, especially as I have a Touring and will need a welder to fix up the mounting bracket for the seat bottom (the one you showed in the first video).

Weld OR epoxy totally clears it up.

For the weld method, the covering plate that goes over the top side MIG welds gets welded in, but what purpose does it serve? Just so that bar sits flush with the chassis? Sorry, that covering plate is the only thing I'm really unclear on, and I'm sorry if I missed its purpose in the video

Thanks again!
-Ted

[VinceSE2]

Thanks, Vince! I would be looking to have it welded in, especially as I have a Touring and will need a welder to fix up the mounting bracket for the seat bottom (the one you showed in the first video).

Weld OR epoxy totally clears it up.

For the weld method, the covering plate that goes over the top side MIG welds gets welded in, but what purpose does it serve? Just so that bar sits flush with the chassis? Sorry, that covering plate is the only thing I'm really unclear on, and I'm sorry if I missed its purpose in the video

Thanks again!
-Ted

If you are talking about the ”patch plate” (in the epoxy/rivet version) that is epoxied on top of the cut and flattened upside down T, that patch plate is not present in the weld-in version. When welding you would weld the slots and grind it flat.

That’s what I was trying to say in the video you originally referred to.




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[t3ddftw]

If you are talking about the ”patch plate” (in the epoxy/rivet version) that is epoxied on top of the cut and flattened upside down T, that patch plate is not present in the weld-in version. When welding you would weld the slots and grind it flat.

That’s what I was trying to say in the video you originally referred to.




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OH, you're trying to strengthen those welds after flattening them. Now I understand!

Thanks again, Vince!
-Ted