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    DO NOT BUY ECS Ultimate Rear Shock Mounts - JUNK ALERT

    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ecs-parts/ultimate-performance-rear-shock-mount-kit/002542ecs01kt/

    In 2018 I purchased these for over $200 (now they are $320馃槼). Took me awhile to get around to installing them while I collected some other parts, but they've been on the car for over two years as I post this. It is literally my 4th vehicle so it doesn't see much mileage to begin with -it's a 2004 with 63k mi- sees exactly ZERO rain or track use and lives in climate controlled storage in a different state.

    I did a big undercarriage install at once: Ohlins R&T, new OE strut hats, CSL spindles, CSL sways, ZHP steering rack with Volke shims, SDW RTAB's, 3.91 LSD, and these ECS Ultimate RSM's. Not long after I started getting a rattle in the rear and immediately assumed it was the SDW RTAB's from where I perceived the noise to be coming from. Assumed I just didn't torque them enough or they could be faulty, although that seemed unlikely since they've got a great reputation for being silent. So probably user error, I put off troubleshooting things since the car went back to storage for almost an entire year. Fast forward to this week I get the car up on the lift and start tackling this, RTAB's were tight and had no play. SDW made a good product after all apparently I can still install things correctly. Looked around at everything else and found nothing so decided to remove the rear shock just because i'm in there anyways....

    Low and behold it's the ECS Ultimate RSM. There is visible play in both of the bushings when moving it by hand and they rattle over most bumps. Everything has less than 2k mi on it, and this failure occurred after only a couple hundred miles at most. No one had responded to my email for three days so I got on Chat with them. Turns out this only carries a 1 year warranty, and that's pretty much all ECS customer service was interested in telling me. Zero effort to make this right when I brought up that this is a faulty product and not just a policy technicality. The rep said maybe the bushings dried out 馃う and there's nothing they can do. I even asked if there is a replacement bushing so I can service them myself, and the rep linked me to buy new ones (LOL) and informed me the gasket and reinforcement plate can be purchased seperately as if those were causing the noise. So here we have a premium product that literally costs 10x the standard part it supposedly upgrades and only carries a 1 year warranty, but cannot be serviced, at least not through the company who advertises the design as fully serviceable and the reps don't seem to have a clue.

    TLDR I'm throwing my obligatory forum/Karen hissy fit, but still.. save your money and don't fall for the hype/marketing.
    Last edited by jvit27; 01-05-2022, 04:59 PM.

    #2
    You've been had. I can't believe they have the balls to charge that much. RE is $100 for the same exact design. Even GC is $150.

    ECS/Turner is always the last place I go for parts now. And I especially avoid anything of their own cheap, outsourced brand. I wanted to buy the Turner splitter for the E36, turns out there are all kinds of QC issues. Look at the fiasco with the airbox.

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      #3
      It's really sad what ECS did to Turner. They bought Pelican, too, and all of the good deals there have gone away and I don't buy anything from them anymore. At least we have FCPEuro and Bimmerworld for now, but I fear one day ECS will own all of it. How such a terrible company continues to grow their business is beyond me, but I guess that's the world we live in.

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        #4
        I wouldn't use a spherical on anything street, they will eventually rattle especially mounted in that direction.

        If you want something "performance" and lasts longer than stock, check out the JTD rear shock mounts.

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          #5
          Let's simplify, don't buy any ECS products lol
          DD: /// 2011.5 Jerez/bamboo E90 M3 DCT Slicktop Instagram
          /// 2004 Silvergrey M3 Coupe 6spd Slicktop zero options
          More info: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...os-supersprint

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            #6
            Never buy ECS brand parts. Ever.

            Avoid buying anything else from ECS period, unless it's absolutely LITERALLY the only option. They have the worst customer service in the charted universe.
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            '99 M3, Hellrot/Sand Beige, slicktop
            '01 M3, Imola/black

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              #7
              I don't blame them for not warrantying something outside the warranty period, they don't know when you actually installed them.

              And yes, fuck ecs and their shitty service. I bought one thing and I think it took two weeks for them to actually ship it while it was in stock.
              2003.5 MT JB/B - CSL SCHRICK SUPERSPRINT EISENMANN JRZ SWIFT MILLWAY APR ENDLESS BBS/SSR DREXLER KMP SACHS RECARO AR SLON MKRS GSP DMG KARBONIUS CP AUTOSOLUTIONS KOYO

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                #8
                Originally posted by 01SG View Post
                You've been had. I can't believe they have the balls to charge that much. RE is $100 for the same exact design. Even GC is $150.

                ECS/Turner is always the last place I go for parts now. And I especially avoid anything of their own cheap, outsourced brand. I wanted to buy the Turner splitter for the E36, turns out there are all kinds of QC issues. Look at the fiasco with the airbox.
                Well the design is different - it has a monoball AND a bushing to mitigate NVH. But you're absolutely right. I knew better, race parts are race parts and will never be street parts.

                Originally posted by cobra View Post
                I wouldn't use a spherical on anything street, they will eventually rattle especially mounted in that direction.

                If you want something "performance" and lasts longer than stock, check out the JTD rear shock mounts.
                Agreed. Let this post/my existence serve as a reminder to everyone. I've been playing with these cars for far too long and went against my own good judgement.

                Full TCK setup is already on the way (RSM's are same basic design) but i've had JTD in the past on another car and they were great. Never made a peep and at 1/3 the cost of these they're a bargain.

                Originally posted by JustAWhisper View Post
                It's really sad what ECS did to Turner. They bought Pelican, too, and all of the good deals there have gone away and I don't buy anything from them anymore. At least we have FCPEuro and Bimmerworld for now, but I fear one day ECS will own all of it. How such a terrible company continues to grow their business is beyond me, but I guess that's the world we live in.
                I never had bad experiences with ECS or Turner before so perhaps I let my guard down. Guess it's like catching covid... sooner or later it gets everyone lol.

                Will stick to FCP and RME from now on. Bimmerworld isn't a bad company but twice i've gotten something that was not what it was supposed to be, which led to causing me a lot of headaches.

                Originally posted by Tbonem3 View Post
                Let's simplify, don't buy any ECS products lol
                QFT.

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                  #9
                  I had almost the exact same issue as the OP. I had a rear clicking that took ages to find, ended up being the ECS RSMs, mine were also past their Warranty period but only be a few months from memory, but similar story where I had only had them actually installed for a short period. I was able to put some pressure on ECS and get them to replace it (only 1 was impacted) and have had no issues since. Just wanted to add that as a counter-point. I still agree with the sentiment that they are overpriced on the reliability is not what it should be for the price tag... I don't regret my purchase but... yet...

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                    #10
                    As others have said avoid ECS parts at all cost.

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                      #11
                      OP sry for your issues, but good on letting the community know. Tired of piss poor parts/companies being shielded..
                      FWIW been using ECS rear reinforcement shock plates for few years now without issue. That said, a hard part to screw up.

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                        #12
                        Looking into RSM's now. I have the TC Kline SA rear koni's, I was looking at GC tall RSM's but they are unavailable at the moment. Are the TC Kline's a good option? https://www.tcklineracing.com/webdoc.../Details52.cfm
                        Thanks

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                          #13
                          tck are nice because you can choose real rubber (not poly) or solid bearing.

                          what i like most about gc tall (poly bush) is recapturing travel, but that wouldn't matter for shortened bodies.

                          typical koni/bilstein/sachs with stock spring or simple lowering spring like eibach pro-kit - TCK rubber
                          typical koni/bilstein/sachs with coilover springs where more travel would be needed - GC tall
                          shortened MCS/JRZ/tck et al with coil over springs - TCK spherical

                          IMO

                          *I have AKG spherical with poly isolators for MCS shocks.
                          Last edited by Tbonem3; 02-16-2022, 01:58 PM.
                          DD: /// 2011.5 Jerez/bamboo E90 M3 DCT Slicktop Instagram
                          /// 2004 Silvergrey M3 Coupe 6spd Slicktop zero options
                          More info: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...os-supersprint

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                            #14
                            Rogue also makes some nice ones that are rebuildable

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tbonem3 View Post
                              tck are nice because you can choose real rubber (not poly) or solid bearing.

                              what i like most about gc tall (poly bush) is recapturing travel, but that wouldn't matter for shortened bodies.

                              typical koni/bilstein/sachs with stock spring or simple lowering spring like eibach pro-kit - TCK rubber
                              typical koni/bilstein/sachs with coilover springs where more travel would be needed - GC tall
                              shortened MCS/JRZ/tck et al with coil over springs - TCK spherical

                              IMO

                              *I have AKG spherical with poly isolators for MCS shocks.
                              perfect. I'm building a Koni/ Eibach street setup. TCK rubber seems like a good fit for now. Thank you!

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