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    Question about Karbonius M3 E46 Body Side Frame Panel

    I have been watching all the nice parts Karbonius has for the E46 M3 platform and I was wondering if their CF side panel can be installed on a car WITHOUT a roll cage?

    Let say you do RACP reinforcement, something like CMP topside reinforcement and Slon strenghtening wall, would the quarter panel/complete side body in CF gives the same chassis rigidity as original steel panels?
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      #3
      That would be a question up to Karbonius. Carbon can be much better for chassis applications than metal, but it has to be made accordingly. I would certainly ask Karbonius if it was made to be used without a cage.

      Other improvements such as racp or a rear seat plate cannot be considered to compare as they strengthen different areas of the chassis.

      The other question to ask is do you really want this on a street car? Installation will likely cost another 4k at least. Any small crack from a parking lot incident will require you to replace it.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Altaran View Post
        That would be a question up to Karbonius. Carbon can be much better for chassis applications than metal, but it has to be made accordingly. I would certainly ask Karbonius if it was made to be used without a cage.

        Other improvements such as racp or a rear seat plate cannot be considered to compare as they strengthen different areas of the chassis.

        The other question to ask is do you really want this on a street car? Installation will likely cost another 4k at least. Any small crack from a parking lot incident will require you to replace it.

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        Carbon can be repaired even if it cracks. You could patch it like drywall but won't ever get it back to cosmetically perfect. It won't dent. If the panel has to be removed...its gonna be a total wh0rebag!

        I think a problem you might have is paint adhesion. I've been told that (I think) urethanes won't adhere well. Be sure to consult with a good painter.

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          #5
          Originally posted by bigjae46 View Post

          Carbon can be repaired even if it cracks. You could patch it like drywall but won't ever get it back to cosmetically perfect. It won't dent. If the panel has to be removed...its gonna be a total wh0rebag!

          I think a problem you might have is paint adhesion. I've been told that (I think) urethanes won't adhere well. Be sure to consult with a good painter.
          Do you think the Karbonius side panels could be used on a streetcar that sees occasional track time?

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            #6
            Originally posted by Advorsor View Post

            Do you think the Karbonius side panels could be used on a streetcar that sees occasional track time?
            What would be the point?


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              #7
              Originally posted by fattycharged View Post

              What would be the point?


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              Just being internally cool.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Advorsor View Post

                Do you think the Karbonius side panels could be used on a streetcar that sees occasional track time?
                I don’t see why not.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Advorsor View Post

                  Just being internally cool.
                  Valid


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