288/280 vs 280/272 cams.

[STAATS]

I have not, but I've done enough cars to piece a clear enough picture of what to expect with each setup.With that said, cams aren't a magic bullet. The has to be in top shape otherwise obviously, I've seen stock cam cars make more than some cammed cars, and some cammed cars making 50 whp more( with similar state of tune barring cams)..so ymmv. But in general, the trend in power gain is as described above.
To others who've asked, yes if I had to do it again, I'd still get the mods bit by bit. Cams, then airbox (or vise versa ) then exhaust etc... At the end of the day, what you really get out of this is the journey, the added performance is just a side effecet imho Also each individually add power on their own, and of course they work even better combined. At the end of the day, it's NA mods

Hey mate - just noticed in your mods list you have TMS pulleys - you are also in a hot climate so how do you find these? I have often toyed with the idea of getting them... almost more as a fun / easy next project but just worried about any adverse effect on cooling due to the reduction on the water pulley... not as fussed ubout alternator and PS pump, they will be fine with a reduction...

[HassanEido]

have you done same engine with both cam sets with no other changes other than the appropriate tune for each?

I have not, but I've done enough cars to piece a clear enough picture of what to expect with each setup.With that said, cams aren't a magic bullet. The has to be in top shape otherwise obviously, I've seen stock cam cars make more than some cammed cars, and some cammed cars making 50 whp more( with similar state of tune barring cams)..so ymmv. But in general, the trend in power gain is as described above.
To others who've asked, yes if I had to do it again, I'd still get the mods bit by bit. Cams, then airbox (or vise versa ) then exhaust etc... At the end of the day, what you really get out of this is the journey, the added performance is just a side effecet imho Also each individually add power on their own, and of course they work even better combined. At the end of the day, it's NA mods

[STAATS]

Will 280 272 cams on a factory manifold with euro extractors/exhaust/ ss race back box make much more power than a standard "euro" s54 after a dyno tune?

I dont have funds for full supersprint exhaust and CSL intake.
Might be able to do cams and tune.

Cheers

I am no expert like Paul and Hassan but through the very long list of reading I did I am lead to believe that each piece of the puzzle (cams, cf airbox, stepped headers & supporting exhaust) will provide performance gains on their own in isolation when tuned for correctly but the gains will be greater when combined. So there is definitely logic to build them up on each other if money doesn't allow the whole gambit in one hit (although buying in one hit and custom tuning once is more cost effective overall - its a large outlay upfront is all)... ie get the cams and tune now and then buy an airbox or exhaust setup when you get the money and re-tune etc making more power at each additional stage.

[digger]

I can confirm the 280 272s are overall better, better average power, more power below 3k rpm. The 288 ties to about 6k then takes over to redline, and makes a smidge more up top from my own testing and cars I've tuned

have you done same engine with both cam sets with no other changes other than the appropriate tune for each?

[BMWahba]

Will 280 272 cams on a factory manifold with euro extractors/exhaust/ ss race back box make much more power than a standard "euro" s54 after a dyno tune?

I dont have funds for full supersprint exhaust and CSL intake.
Might be able to do cams and tune.

Cheers

I am also interested in this! I was planning to run the euro header with 280/272, and an airbox down the road. From what I have read, the cams net you somewhere between 15-20hp, with a nicer power curve.

[ClevoCapri]

Will 280 272 cams on a factory manifold with euro extractors/exhaust/ ss race back box make much more power than a standard "euro" s54 after a dyno tune?

I dont have funds for full supersprint exhaust and CSL intake.
Might be able to do cams and tune.

Cheers

[HassanEido]

I can confirm the 280 272s are overall better, better average power, more power below 3k rpm. The 288 ties to about 6k then takes over to redline, and makes a smidge more up top from my own testing and cars I've tuned

[BMWahba]

Sounds good Staats - give me a shout anytime

Already chatted with you via insta but so glad to see you on here! Once cams/headers are in we'll get a tune going.

[paulclaude]

I'll be coming to you with 280/272 when I can get enough pennies together and find a local dyno to book out and setup a remote session with you

Sounds good Staats - give me a shout anytime

[STAATS]

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We'll get you sorted out Kev when you decide on what cams to go for. I would personally like to test the 280/272's as most people come to me with the 288/280's for tuning, so I don't have so much data on the 280/272's to compare.

I'll be coming to you with 280/272 when I can get enough pennies together and find a local dyno to book out and setup a remote session with you

[paulclaude]

Paul is currently on lockdown working on his race car - he is also in love now lol.

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We'll get you sorted out Kev when you decide on what cams to go for. I would personally like to test the 280/272's as most people come to me with the 288/280's for tuning, so I don't have so much data on the 280/272's to compare.

[M3KVU]

Very interesting replies gents - keep em coming.

[M3KVU]

I was going to have him tweak my tune this spring/summer, but doesn't seem like I'm going to go able to get on a dyno this year, at the current rate...

Paul is currently on lockdown working on his race car - he is also in love now lol.

[Obioban]

What gives with basically double the cost for Scricks? Better materials/manufacturing/testing etc?

Probably. There must be a reason schricks are OE I’m so many cars.

[mainstreamer00]

What gives with basically double the cost for Scricks? Better materials/manufacturing/testing etc?

Ability to flex on CatCams peasants lol