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    Originally posted by OldRanger View Post
    I really want to do this! Thanks heinzboehmer, and everyone that contributed to this. Lots of good ideas.

    Our track car has the IHKA and cabin air intake removed - so I’m in that camp.
    Cars like yours and bigjae46's are the perfect candidates for this, since you get to skip the hardest part of the project!

    Couple hours to bond the windshield mount in, then just bolt the rest of the parts in and done.
    2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - SSV1 - HJS - Mullet Tune - MK60 Swap - E86 Front Triangulation - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

    2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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      Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

      Cars like yours and bigjae46's are the perfect candidates for this, since you get to skip the hardest part of the project!

      Couple hours to bond the windshield mount in, then just bolt the rest of the parts in and done.
      oh man, what's the hardest part outside of these items? lol, was just talking to bigjae46on the carbon pieces, want to make sure i got everything.
      | 06 6 Speed Vert - JB on Cinnamon|Beisan|ACL RB's|ST Sway Bar|​3.91|Bi-LED|​ TMS CSL Box|Megan headers|H.T.E Tune|Bryson Air Inlet|​550 Injectors|OEM Section 1, 2, 3|200 Cell Cats|OEM SSK|Bilstein B12|712 yellow tag




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        Originally posted by siamkazi View Post
        oh man, what's the hardest part outside of these items?
        Many/most track-dedicated cars have the heater/ac and cabin air filter housing removed. For me - that brings the project into reach.
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          Originally posted by OldRanger View Post

          Many/most track-dedicated cars have the heater/ac and cabin air filter housing removed. For me - that brings the project into reach.
          Ah, thank you! I'm going to keep the cabin air filter housing etc. so will get those printed out via the files provided
          | 06 6 Speed Vert - JB on Cinnamon|Beisan|ACL RB's|ST Sway Bar|​3.91|Bi-LED|​ TMS CSL Box|Megan headers|H.T.E Tune|Bryson Air Inlet|​550 Injectors|OEM Section 1, 2, 3|200 Cell Cats|OEM SSK|Bilstein B12|712 yellow tag




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            Originally posted by siamkazi View Post

            oh man, what's the hardest part outside of these items? lol, was just talking to bigjae46on the carbon pieces, want to make sure i got everything.
            Yep, the HVAC plastics are the hardest by far. The geometry is weird (or rather designed for injection molding, not 3D printing), so it's not easy to get quality parts. The gaskets are especially tricky to print.

            The other components are easy cause you just pay someone to do the hard part for you and then receive a completed part in the mail
            2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - SSV1 - HJS - Mullet Tune - MK60 Swap - E86 Front Triangulation - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

            2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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              Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

              Yep, the HVAC plastics are the hardest by far. The geometry is weird (or rather designed for injection molding, not 3D printing), so it's not easy to get quality parts. The gaskets are especially tricky to print.

              The other components are easy cause you just pay someone to do the hard part for you and then receive a completed part in the mail
              Gotta hand it to you, my brain can't comprehend how you created this to the point where I can just simply pay someone and get a part and just bolt it on
              | 06 6 Speed Vert - JB on Cinnamon|Beisan|ACL RB's|ST Sway Bar|​3.91|Bi-LED|​ TMS CSL Box|Megan headers|H.T.E Tune|Bryson Air Inlet|​550 Injectors|OEM Section 1, 2, 3|200 Cell Cats|OEM SSK|Bilstein B12|712 yellow tag




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                Drove 7 track sessions this past weekend. The front end is SOOOOO much better!

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                  Originally posted by bigjae46 View Post
                  Drove 7 track sessions this past weekend. The front end is SOOOOO much better!
                  People talk about the front end on the e9x m3 being better than the e46– front end triangulation hasn’t made me wonder if that’s actually due change in setup, as commonly attributed, or if it’s actually due to chassis stiffness

                  2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
                  2012 LMB/Black 128i
                  100 Series Land Cruiser

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                    Originally posted by Obioban View Post

                    People talk about the front end on the e9x m3 been better than the e46– front end triangulation hasn’t made me wonder if that’s actually due to the multi link setup, as commonly attributed, or if it’s actually due to chassis stiffness
                    My guess is the E9X's front end being better has more to do with stiffness which I would think is mostly in the subframe. The E9X is basically a tubular aluminum figure 8 with 6 attachment points, the E46 is just a straight bar with 4 attachments.

                    It is still a macpherson strut design. The E9X M3 tension bushing lasts FAR longer than the E46 FCAB. Still have the same dynamic camber issues - both platforms need similar levels of added negative camber.

                    I think the rear suspension is the big step change. Especially the limited slip unit when it was new.

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                      Originally posted by Obioban View Post

                      People talk about the front end on the e9x m3 been better than the e46– front end triangulation hasn’t made me wonder if that’s actually due to the multi link setup, as commonly attributed, or if it’s actually due to chassis stiffness
                      I bet chassis stiffness is a huge part of it. Even the non-M, "soft" E9x/E8x cars feel much sharper up front, compared to a stock E46 M3.
                      2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - SSV1 - HJS - Mullet Tune - MK60 Swap - E86 Front Triangulation - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal

                      2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal

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