Review: Cobra Nogaro seats (uniquely street friendly fixed back bucket seat)

[Pklauser]

How'd you end up blacking out the stitching? Sharpie?

[heinzboehmer]

Can someone who recently received (or will soon receive) a GRP Nogaro weigh the seat? Preferably, if you have the standard vinyl and Dinamica upholstery.

Looking for the "as shipped" weight.

Gracias,
Casa

Don't have the most accurate scale in the world, but average of the weights I got was 18.2 lbs per seat.

I will once I get them, still haven't shipped likely as a result of the custom order (stitching/logo delete). Heinz will probably beat me to the punch here.

Lol you know me well. Also sneak peek of my own DIY black stitching and logo delete (as in used a seam ripper and removed the embroidered logo):

[Cubieman]

Can someone who recently received (or will soon receive) a GRP Nogaro weigh the seat? Preferably, if you have the standard vinyl and Dinamica upholstery.

Looking for the "as shipped" weight.

Gracias,
Casa

I will once I get them, still haven't shipped likely as a result of the custom order (stitching/logo delete). Heinz will probably beat me to the punch here.

[Casa de Mesa]

Can someone who recently received (or will soon receive) a GRP Nogaro weigh the seat? Preferably, if you have the standard vinyl and Dinamica upholstery.

Looking for the "as shipped" weight.

Gracias,
Casa

[SQ13]

Could probably spend the $7200 difference to make up for the additional 14 lbs in some other way lol

[bmw m3 s50]

The seat(s) I weighed and have is presumably the wet carbon overlay variant.

I did not know there were 3 variants of the seat when I ordered them. The 3 being:
1) fiberglass / GRP
2) wet carbon overlay
3) full carbon

If you follow the Driftworks' link: [url]
...based on advertised weights in their description (which is a copy & paste from Cobra's main site, not Cobra's US site), it reads like they sell variants 1 or 3. I thought I was getting variant 3. I didn't even know variant 2 existed until I weighed them. And I only thought to weigh them because when I picked them up, they felt like they weighed more than 11.7 pounds.

I'm truly surprised Cobra even makes variant 2. What's the point for the paltry weight savings over variant 1 other than purely cosmetic/bling? For something that functional (it's not something like a #happybuyitnow diffuser or carbon interior trim), I literally do not see the point.

I thought so too because of the prices. The GRP is the cheapest at around $1k each which weight about 19lbs. The carbon overlay which are $2600 each and weight 17lbs. The full carbon are actually $4600 each and weight 12lbs:

https://www.jegs.com/i/Save+A+Battery/240/NOGS-CCVDBK/10002/-1?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI0O2fxOWi_AIVEvjICh2ikw5rEAQYAS ABEgL9vvD_BwE

Remember those prices are for each seat. You have to normally buy two seats so those prices are x2.

Like you, I thought that the price for the full carbons were $2600 which seems like alot but reasonable for 12lbs seats. $4600 starts to become a bit much. $9200 for two seats and 7lbs less seems a bit too much.

[Casa de Mesa]

Are the seat that you weight the wet carbon overlays or the full carbon seat?

The full carbon is like $5k, right and the wet carbon overlay is $2.5k while the fiberglass is $1k?

The seat(s) I weighed and have is presumably the wet carbon overlay variant.

I did not know there were 3 variants of the seat when I ordered them. The 3 being:
1) fiberglass / GRP
2) wet carbon overlay
3) full carbon

If you follow the Driftworks' link: https://www.driftworks.com/cobra-nog...port-seat.html

...based on advertised weights in their description (which is a copy & paste from Cobra's main site, not Cobra's US site), it reads like they sell variants 1 or 3. I thought I was getting variant 3. I didn't even know variant 2 existed until I weighed them. And I only thought to weigh them because when I picked them up, they felt like they weighed more than 11.7 pounds.

I'm truly surprised Cobra even makes variant 2. What's the point for the paltry weight savings over variant 1 other than purely cosmetic/bling? For something that functional (it's not something like a #happybuyitnow diffuser or carbon interior trim), I literally do not see the point.

[Obioban]

Are the seat that you weight the wet carbon overlays or the full carbon seat?

The full carbon is like $5k, right and the wet carbon overlay is $2.5k while the fiberglass is $1k?

Overlay.

[bmw m3 s50]

And the verdict is...

With the 4 mounting bolts in the seat as shipped (a nominal amount of weight, but I will remove them for total accuracy tomorrow) and me balancing the seat with one hand while taking a photo with the other, they weighed in at about 8.16 kg / 18.0 lbs each. While they are lighter than the quoted weight on Driftworks' site of the "standard" GRP seat, that's quite a ways off from 5.3 kg / 11.7 lbs per seat.

I'll get better accuracy around these tomorrow when I'm not single handed, but clearly these are not what I thought I ordered (a total of around 8 lbs saved between both seats, rather than ~22 lbs). In my mind, these are definitely not worth the 3X price differential over the standard GRP seats. These look absolutely mint, don't get me wrong - the quality, fit and finish is extremely good - but not what I thought I was getting.

I'll send Driftworks an email.

Note: These photos are the best I could manage. While the figures below are close, there is definitely some measuring error here.

Are the seat that you weight the wet carbon overlays or the full carbon seat?

The full carbon is like $5k, right and the wet carbon overlay is $2.5k while the fiberglass is $1k?

[BTB]

Awesome looking car! You clearly have impeccable taste.

Thank you-- heh! In fact just bought 2 additional 18x9.5 ET35 EC-7s during Apex's holiday sale. Glad I chose these way back when ~9 years ago

Harris Hill is alright. Super bumpy, so I don’t drive my M3 there anymore.

Thanks! I’m working this weekend unfortunately, but I’ll PM you so we can coordinate. Could do a Lime Creek run if you’re interested.

Didn't know about Harris Hill-- I probably would not love it in that case lol. Sounds good, HMU anytime

[SQ13]

Oh dang, good to know! I was also signed up for Track Night in America at Harris Hill but ended up not being able to make it, would like to drive that track at some point.

You can try out the Nogaro anytime, just PM me-- this weekend could work. For now I just have on driver's side with Brey-Krause mounts.

Harris Hill is alright. Super bumpy, so I don’t drive my M3 there anymore.

Thanks! I’m working this weekend unfortunately, but I’ll PM you so we can coordinate. Could do a Lime Creek run if you’re interested.

[Casa de Mesa]

Maybe the quoted weight is with a different upholstery? Having said that, it's hard to believe it would be a 6 pound difference...

The fabric is the same as the GRP seat. And yeah, 6 lbs of upholstery is a LOT of upholstery.

[BTB]

Chin Track Days also hosts events at COTA. PCA runs an event called Austin Schnell Fest twice a year. Both are much better than Edge Addicts events at COTA IMO.

Lime Creek Road is what you’re looking for. It’s near Lake Travis and is really popular among the Austin car community. Just be careful..recently more cops have been posted up along that road.


Also, any chance I can sit in your Nogaro seats in the near future? I’d def like to make sure they work for me before I spend thousands on them.

Oh dang, good to know! I was also signed up for Track Night in America at Harris Hill but ended up not being able to make it, would like to drive that track at some point.

You can try out the Nogaro anytime, just PM me-- this weekend could work. For now I just have on driver's side with Brey-Krause mounts.

[elbert]

And the verdict is...

With the 4 mounting bolts in the seat as shipped (a nominal amount of weight, but I will remove them for total accuracy tomorrow) and me balancing the seat with one hand while taking a photo with the other, they weighed in at about 8.16 kg / 18.0 lbs each. While they are lighter than the quoted weight on Driftworks' site of the "standard" GRP seat, that's quite a ways off from 5.3 kg / 11.7 lbs per seat.

Maybe the quoted weight is with a different upholstery? Having said that, it's hard to believe it would be a 6 pound difference...

[SQ13]

Ugh, wish it wasn't so expensive, seems Edge Addicts is the only real option? Early 2023 is likely no bueno for me, but mid/late 2023 could be good!

Any good country routes outside of town? I have a short loop I do out near Manor (I live in north Austin) but still have yet to explore much outside of Austin, west hills etc.

Chin Track Days also hosts events at COTA. PCA runs an event called Austin Schnell Fest twice a year. Both are much better than Edge Addicts events at COTA IMO.

Lime Creek Road is what you’re looking for. It’s near Lake Travis and is really popular among the Austin car community. Just be careful..recently more cops have been posted up along that road.


Also, any chance I can sit in your Nogaro seats in the near future? I’d def like to make sure they work for me before I spend thousands on them.