Review: Cobra Nogaro seats (uniquely street friendly fixed back bucket seat)

[Casa de Mesa]

I have the BK mounts and am in the process of cleaning up some rusty old non-m manual sliders. I wish I could ditch the seat heats but I like them and just have do it as shitty as it may be work/cost wise.

Belive me, I am not casting judgement! I found that control unit on eBay and figured it was a way for me to get the seats in and come back later for seat heaters. And I may just see if I can live without the seat heaters - I rarely use them.

My plan is to redo some of the interior so will likely tackle this down the road if it turns out I miss the heaters.

[Cubieman]

I ended up going with the Brey Krause mounts. Figured they are designed for these seats and they are a known quantity.

Also, here is how I'm getting around the heated seat issue:

I have the BK mounts and am in the process of cleaning up some rusty old non-m manual sliders. I wish I could ditch the seat heats but I like them and just have do it as shitty as it may be work/cost wise.

[Casa de Mesa]

I ended up going with the Brey Krause mounts. Figured they are designed for these seats and they are a known quantity.

Also, here is how I'm getting around the heated seat issue:

[Cubieman]

I've read as many threads as I can on the heated seat deal but still have a bit of confusion. Probably over complicating matters per usual.

I've got stock heated/power seats but want to leave the seats/wiring harness stock, I don't like to modify stock parts.

As I understand it, these are the rough outlines of parts I may need.

- e39 seat heats, bottom and back for each seat.
- e46 seat wiring harness that supports seat heats.


I've read of people of using an e39 seat wiring harness but as I understand one can use the e39 seat heats and they are compatible with an e46 seat wiring harness, yes?

I would like everything to plug and play and avoid the cutting of wires splicing/soldering just to make things cleaner and safer.

To make things "easy" could I simply source a E46 M3 heated/powered wiring harness like I currently have in the car and use that? I figured I would just de-pin the wiring that goes to the power seat motors.

I suppose a non-powered but heated E46 M3 seat wiring harness would be best but I see a few of the powered/heated available for a decent price.

[Obioban]

When going from power to manual seat sliders (from a sedan) can the seat belt receptacles be re-used or one must source non-m sedan/wagon receptacles?

They're the same.

[Cubieman]

When going from power to manual seat sliders (from a sedan) can the seat belt receptacles be re-used or one must source non-m sedan/wagon receptacles?

[lvm3sm46]

I just listed a set of Nogaros with mounts and sliders for sale. Located in NY

[Casa de Mesa]

You have raised some great points. I've sent out an email to speed engineering and pointed them to this thread. Let see if we can get some answers.

Good deal, keep us posted.

[Casa de Mesa]

Don't know, sadly.

Oh got it. You still have the preproduction version... cause why would they even need to swap it out...

#darwinaward

[Obioban]

How high up does the mount protrude along the seat edge on the production version? This is the bit (blue line) I'm most concerned about:

Don't know, sadly.

[ZiMMie]

How high up does the mount protrude along the seat edge on the production version? This is the bit (blue line) I'm most concerned about:

You have raised some great points. I've sent out an email to speed engineering and pointed them to this thread. Let see if we can get some answers.

[Casa de Mesa]

How high up does the mount protrude along the seat edge on the production version? This is the bit (blue line) I'm most concerned about:

[Obioban]

The one in that picture didn’t end up being the final mount design. See how it’s bolted to the top of the slider in the rear, instead of on the side, like the final version.

[Casa de Mesa]

I don't think manual or electric will need a specific bracket as the mounting 4 bolts are the same between the two.

I'm only interested in using the original seat base. There plenty other companies that offer seat mounting solutions for the e46 chassis.

As for the seat belt mounting, if the stock based it's used, then the seat belt retractor will just bolt up to the base/stock mount.

Got it. I just went back to check the BK mounts and for some reason I thought they had two versions, power vs. manual slider mounts. I remembered incorrectly!

The one thing about the Cobras vs. the Recaros. The mounts on the Speed Engineering pieces seem like they might come up higher on the sides of the seat (the outside edge where the mounts bolt up to the seat) than on the BKs. Given how low-slung the Cobra seats are in the leg bolster area, I wonder if these mounts will interfere with the seat in any area. I've run into this issue with generic, non-seat specific mounts in other race buckets and it makes the installation a bit of a pain. Heck, my OMP seat with OMP seat brackets interfered with each other...

Horrible mock-ups below, but I see 2 potential problem areas. The vertical rise area circled in red below (blue is the rear, shouldn't be an issue):




In this pic, the hole-to-hole dimensions might be longer than on the BK mounts (pictures just below the first pic). This is where I've run into interference issues with seats in the past.

Also, I wonder how high these mounts will push the seat up (the arrow in the left hand side below)? Without laying the BK mounts and the Speed Engineering mounts side-by-side, it's really hard to tell.



BK's for reference:



And Ian's seat. Not sure how much room is above the forward mounting hole and if these Speed Engineering mounts will interfere or not.

[Thoglan]

Thanks guys..

Here is another option for brackets based on cobras dimensions.

This company is well respected in the racing community here and it's cheaper as well. You don't have to pay extra for sliders handle.

They also provide material report which is required for TÜV.
https://www.speedengineering.de/prod...r-komplettset/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-DTg4K9loc

That looks so much better than the BK brackets. I do not rate the BK brackets highly after owning them. I might end up ordering a set of these and see how they compare.