Review: Cobra Nogaro seats (uniquely street friendly fixed back bucket seat)

[OldRanger]

Seeing the BK issues worries me some. No one has installed them in the last 6 months though so I do not know if the QC has improved.

I have installed BK products in the last six months.

https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/main-forum/e46-2001-2006/229250-2023-installation-supplement-cobra-nogaro-seats

[Cronenberged]

Seeing the BK issues worries me some. No one has installed them in the last 6 months though so I do not know if the QC has improved.

What issues with QC are seeing?

[Ubaderb]

That’s probably less hassle 😜

Seeing the BK issues worries me some. No one has installed them in the last 6 months though so I do not know if the QC has improved.

[Obioban]

Might be more of hassle than it's worth but has anyone used a seat to floor mount? Skipping the factory sliders. It's only ever going to be me driving and I do not use the backseat for anything. A set it and forget it might be useful.

That’s probably less hassle 😜

[Ubaderb]

Might be more of hassle than it's worth but has anyone used a seat to floor mount? Skipping the factory sliders. It's only ever going to be me driving and I do not use the backseat for anything. A set it and forget it might be useful.

[OldRanger]

Do the R-9225 Driver and Passenger Side Clip In Lap Belt Mounts only work with non M3 sliders? Would the door side mount, mount where the OE rail is if using M3 sliders? Also for the mount that would go near the transmission tunnel does anyone have a pick of that mounted?

I use the BK 9225 on M3 power sliders. I mentioned some challenges in the 2023 install update topic I started

[Cronenberged]

Do the R-9225 Driver and Passenger Side Clip In Lap Belt Mounts only work with non M3 sliders? Would the door side mount, mount where the OE rail is if using M3 sliders? Also for the mount that would go near the transmission tunnel does anyone have a pick of that mounted?

[Obioban]

I did have it out last year when I removed my nav wiring harness. It seemed seated to me and certainly looks like it’s back in place, but I have the passenger seat out right now and can easily check that side at least next time I work on the car. How much clearance do you have?

I’ll try to remember to take a picture tomorrow.

[heinzboehmer]

I haven’t used one yet, so far just the three point on track. Maybe the sub strap will go back in if it helps.

I would keep the substrap. Without it, my quick fit feels like it rides up way too much. Ends up in a spot where it would just crush organs in a crash.

Granted, I'm a skinny dude, but still a significant safety upgrade regardless of body type.

[repoman89]

To be honest, even with the QFP, it'd be nice to have the substrap just to hold the buckle down. It's one of the allures of the Nogaro to me: a QFP user with stock seats

I haven’t used one yet, so far just the three point on track. Maybe the sub strap will go back in if it helps.

[repoman89]

Has your carpet ever been out? I wonder if it’s not seated fully— my BK sub strap has no friction with the carpet.

I did have it out last year when I removed my nav wiring harness. It seemed seated to me and certainly looks like it’s back in place, but I have the passenger seat out right now and can easily check that side at least next time I work on the car. How much clearance do you have?

[Obioban]

Figured out one major problem that was resulting in a good amount of the “stickiness” — the sub strap bar rubs pretty heavily on the carpet where the chassis bumps out toward the front third of seat travel. It feels a good bit better now after removing the bar and reinstalling the seat with loose fasteners as suggested.

I think I’ll go for a QFP setup for this car instead of all the BK harness mounting stuff — removed the rear mounts today as well and installed a fresh rear deck.

Has your carpet ever been out? I wonder if it’s not seated fully— my BK sub strap has no friction with the carpet.

[Pklauser]

Figured out one major problem that was resulting in a good amount of the “stickiness” — the sub strap bar rubs pretty heavily on the carpet where the chassis bumps out toward the front third of seat travel. It feels a good bit better now after removing the bar and reinstalling the seat with loose fasteners as suggested.

I think I’ll go for a QFP setup for this car instead of all the BK harness mounting stuff — removed the rear mounts today as well and installed a fresh rear deck.

To be honest, even with the QFP, it'd be nice to have the substrap just to hold the buckle down. It's one of the allures of the Nogaro to me: a QFP user with stock seats

[repoman89]

Figured out one major problem that was resulting in a good amount of the “stickiness” — the sub strap bar rubs pretty heavily on the carpet where the chassis bumps out toward the front third of seat travel. It feels a good bit better now after removing the bar and reinstalling the seat with loose fasteners as suggested.

I think I’ll go for a QFP setup for this car instead of all the BK harness mounting stuff — removed the rear mounts today as well and installed a fresh rear deck.

[Cubieman]

Any particular grease you used on the rails like Cubieman? Do you tighten the outside seat bolts last after torqueing down the chassis bolts?

I used this grease:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-sunroof-lubricant-20-grams-83192157321

And yeah I tightened the rails>floor and then the BK mounts>seat.