Review: Cobra Nogaro seats (uniquely street friendly fixed back bucket seat)

[repoman89]

Figured out one major problem that was resulting in a good amount of the “stickiness” — the sub strap bar rubs pretty heavily on the carpet where the chassis bumps out toward the front third of seat travel. It feels a good bit better now after removing the bar and reinstalling the seat with loose fasteners as suggested.

I think I’ll go for a QFP setup for this car instead of all the BK harness mounting stuff — removed the rear mounts today as well and installed a fresh rear deck.

[Cubieman]

Any particular grease you used on the rails like Cubieman? Do you tighten the outside seat bolts last after torqueing down the chassis bolts?

I used this grease:

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-sunroof-lubricant-20-grams-83192157321

And yeah I tightened the rails>floor and then the BK mounts>seat.

[repoman89]

The sliders I sourced looked brand new, so I didn’t add any grease.

I’d go in this order:
tighten sliders to floor
tighten side mounts to seat.
sit in seat. Slide back and forth 10-20 times, full range of travel
tighten side mounts to sliders.

Oooh interesting. Side mounts to sliders I always bolt down outside the car. I’ll loosen them a bit when I try again. Thanks for the tip.

[Obioban]

Any particular grease you used on the rails like Cubieman? Do you tighten the outside seat bolts last after torqueing down the chassis bolts?

The sliders I sourced looked brand new, so I didn’t add any grease.

I’d go in this order:
tighten side mounts to seat
tighten sliders to floor
sit in seat. Slide back and forth 10-20 times, full range of travel
tighten side mounts to sliders.

[repoman89]

Loosen all the bolts, bolt the seat into the car and down, slide the seat back and forth, and then doing final tightening in car with the sliders fully bolted to the chassis. took mine from sticky to stock like.

Any particular grease you used on the rails like Cubieman? Do you tighten the outside seat bolts last after torqueing down the chassis bolts?

[repoman89]

I see you’re in the Boston area as am I - maybe we can meet up at a cars and coffee so can check out the seats? I sat in the Nogaro at HMS a few years ago, but have yet to try them in an actual e46 m3.

Sure, shoot me a PM. Probably won’t find myself at any c&c or track days this year but I’m around and have the E46 out of storage at my house right now.

[nyc951]

Nice, thanks for the confirmation. I’ll loosen them up and try your procedure to see if I can get a slightly better positioning. I kind of expected this tbh based on how difficult it is to install the seats in the car. I find it impossible to tighten the rail to chassis bolts down unless the seat itself is loosened. The fit is definitely far from perfect.

At least this time around I figured out how to keep the little yellow plug holder, always bothered me that the plug was just floating around under there.

I see you’re in the Boston area as am I - maybe we can meet up at a cars and coffee so can check out the seats? I sat in the Nogaro at HMS a few years ago, but have yet to try them in an actual e46 m3.

[Cubieman]

Just switched my driver side seat over to manual rails today. Seems nice, just a little “sticky” and not quite as easy to get it to slide as typical OEM seats. Is this typical? If not any suggestions for getting it smooth?

Waiting on the passenger side release handle to do the other side since ECS decided to send me a used/repackaged one without the springs. Replacement on the way.

The non-motorized slider piece is noticeably lighter … has to be a couple pounds per side

My seats slide rather easily, are not notchy and my manual seat rails are most definitely not parallel, I had to fight to get them bolted down as they were way off due to the BK mounts.

Before installation I used a ton of brake cleaner/random tools to get as much of the old grease/debris from the tracks as possible and then used a 10ml syringe with an 18 or 20gauge needle to apply sunroof grease where needed and ran them back and forth numerous times.

[Obioban]

Loosen all the bolts, bolt the seat into the car and down, slide the seat back and forth, and then doing final tightening in car with the sliders fully bolted to the chassis. took mine from sticky to stock like.

[repoman89]

No . The BK mounts seem to push them out of position a bit, so they're no longer parallel and become sticky. See my post above: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...620#post218620

Nice, thanks for the confirmation. I’ll loosen them up and try your procedure to see if I can get a slightly better positioning. I kind of expected this tbh based on how difficult it is to install the seats in the car. I find it impossible to tighten the rail to chassis bolts down unless the seat itself is loosened. The fit is definitely far from perfect.

At least this time around I figured out how to keep the little yellow plug holder, always bothered me that the plug was just floating around under there.

[heinzboehmer]

Just switched my driver side seat over to manual rails today. Seems nice, just a little “sticky” and not quite as easy to get it to slide as typical OEM seats. Is this typical? If not any suggestions for getting it smooth?

No good solution . The BK mounts seem to push the rails out of position a bit, so they're no longer parallel and become sticky. See my post above: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...620#post218620

[repoman89]

Just switched my driver side seat over to manual rails today. Seems nice, just a little “sticky” and not quite as easy to get it to slide as typical OEM seats. Is this typical? If not any suggestions for getting it smooth?

Waiting on the passenger side release handle to do the other side since ECS decided to send me a used/repackaged one without the springs. Replacement on the way.

The non-motorized slider piece is noticeably lighter … has to be a couple pounds per side

[OldRanger]

The project to setup and install Cobra Nogaros with BK mounts on OE power sliders urned out fairly well. There were some surprises during install, especially learning the seat is not precisely centered on the steering wheel. I've already grown accostomed to it. I think I will start up a new thread with only information on the install. This one was so long to review I lost track of the details.

[Avedis]

Has anyone used (or has opinion) on these mounts for the Nogaro? Pros, cons?

https://machtschnell.com/macht-schnell-clubsport-seat-mount.html

[SQ13]

Yeah I remember the side mount holes on my Sparco Circuit were higher than the old Oreca Start FG (Sparco Evo), so the Circuit sat lower to the floor and very close to the sub strap bar. This was with the fixed BK mounts.