Tires. What is every one running?

[mrgizmo04]

Sh**, it's Wednesday?

Seems like every day

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[Icecream]

Boy, this escalated quickly.

For what it's worth, when I first purchased my car ~3 years ago, it came with hankooks, brand new ones (po replaced right before selling). I can not say I enjoyed the feel of them, so I replaced them.

Everything is so subjective, and "depends". Depends on where you drive and how you drive. I know people who street/daily on nt01 and enjoy them (they are dot legal, even though they are 100tw), and say they do fine in the rain unless pretty worn without grooves. I run pfc08 on my car year round, but I don't see east coast temperatures.

Anyway, sounds like everyone is having a boring wednesday.

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Sh**, it's Wednesday?

[mrgizmo04]

Boy, this escalated quickly.

For what it's worth, when I first purchased my car ~3 years ago, it came with hankooks, brand new ones (po replaced right before selling). I can not say I enjoyed the feel of them, so I replaced them.

Everything is so subjective, and "depends". Depends on where you drive and how you drive. I know people who street/daily on nt01 and enjoy them (they are dot legal, even though they are 100tw), and say they do fine in the rain unless pretty worn without grooves. I run pfc08 on my car year round, but I don't see east coast temperatures.

Anyway, sounds like everyone is having a boring wednesday.

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[Tbonem3]

Feels good to be back home

Wondered where u were

[fattycharged]

Which is part of the problem. I still have a set of PS' up in my attic. That is not normal you shouldn't be going through 2-3 rear tires for every front tire replacement.

It's just a sign you're enjoying your M3 😉

[fattycharged]

Got some real gems in here Starting to get M3F tingles.

Feels good to be back home

[Ob917]

Nt01 273/35-18 square. First time using this tire, I think I’m in love.

[r4dr]

Got some real gems in here Starting to get M3F tingles.

I feel dumber for having read through this thread.

[Tbonem3]

Got some real gems in here Starting to get M3F tingles.

[Icecream]

It is true that if you put tires suited for a $20k car on it, you've gone a long way towards transforming the driving experience from a $55,000 driving experience to a $20,000 driving experience.

I guess we've found common ground.

most people genuinely cannot tell the difference in driving experience between a hounday and an M3; it all feels the same to them. The same people claim their cheap coil over suspension and bargain tires feel like a race car. Not a stab at anyone but it’s just fact from what I have observed.

[Obioban]

Which is part of the problem. I still have a set of PS' up in my attic. That is not normal you shouldn't be going through 2-3 rear tires for every front tire replacement.

That is based on driving style and chassis dynamics-- not tire compound.

[chicane]

Unless you’re running a square setup, I don’t get why you are buying “sets” of tires every 10k. I go through 2-3 rear tires for every front tire replacement.


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Which is part of the problem. I still have a set of PS' up in my attic. That is not normal you shouldn't be going through 2-3 rear tires for every front tire replacement.

[elbert]

I have never been dissatisfied with any Michelin tire, ever.

Michelin tires back in the 1990's were terrible, when they were experimenting with different silica compounds. It wasn't until they came out with the Pilot SX MXX3 did they become decent again.
But I digress. Carry on... and get off my lawn

[Obioban]

My driving experience hasn't suffered in the least. And like I said I had MPS so I know they are good tires. They just are not worth the money, to me, vs. the amount of tread life that you get out of them. My point is that I am far from the only one running these on an M3. Others as use them well, and enjoy them. Are they a compromise, probably, especially if you put the car through some heavy driving. But they do not run like shit as others said, not even close, they have excellent wet driving properties, they look great are quiet and I would buy another set in a heartbeat. I don't base my buying decisions based on what people "on the boards" think is cool or acceptable. I do my research and buy what I find acceptable. I don't find paying $1200 for a set of tires that lasts less than 10K acceptable.

The modern Pilot Sports last longer than 10k.

That said, I ran them when they didn't and were twice as expensive (inflation adjusted). Tires are the single largest determinant of wet grip, dry grip, NHV, hydroplaning resistance, steering feel, wet and dry stopping distance, etc. If you find value in driving an M3, it's hard for me to see value in compromising everything about the M3 experience to save a couple bucks.

Failing that, I've never driven a tire as ruinous to the M3 as the V12s. I'd get literally any other budget tire over them. It is THE worst tire for the car. It gives the car the body on frame with failed body mounts feel, but with the harnesses normally associated with the opposite sort of tire. Worst of both worlds.

Amusingly, I had a friend who had a set. His car felt so off with them that he ended up replacing every bushing in the car, because he couldn't figure out what was ruining the handling. Eventually he replaced his tires, and that actually fixed his handling.

That was most of my V12 experience-- test driving his car, trying to figure out what on the car was broken.

[fattycharged]

My driving experience hasn't suffered in the least. And like I said I had MPS so I know they are good tires. They just are not worth the money, to me, vs. the amount of tread life that you get out of them. My point is that I am far from the only one running these on an M3. Others as use them well, and enjoy them. Are they a compromise, probably, especially if you put the car through some heavy driving. But they do not run like shit as others said, not even close, they have excellent wet driving properties, they look great are quiet and I would buy another set in a heartbeat. I don't base my buying decisions based on what people "on the boards" think is cool or acceptable. I do my research and buy what I find acceptable. I don't find paying $1200 for a set of tires that lasts less than 10K acceptable.

Unless you’re running a square setup, I don’t get why you are buying “sets” of tires every 10k. I go through 2-3 rear tires for every front tire replacement.


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