School me on fixed bucket seats and mounting solutions!

[freshprince2421]

For the Recaro seat bolts I went with 20mm length Zinc Yellow-Chromate Plated Class 10.9 Steel M8 × 1.25 mm bolts from McMaster-Carr from bigjae46 recommendation. 20mm was the perfect length for my application and I used the included 2mm BK spacers between the mounts and seat.
https://www.mcmaster.com/metric-clas.../length~20-mm/
I forgot the washers so just got some zinc yellow chromate grade 8 ones on Amazon. Both the bolts and washers came next day surprisingly quick.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Appreciate the hardware recommendations from BigRussia and bigjae46. I opted to go with black hardware to blend in more. Less quantity for $50 shipped... yikes

https://www.mcmaster.com/98093A538/
https://www.mcmaster.com/91434A118/

[ZiMMie]

How much space do you to access the back seats with this setup?

I'd love to find a solution for fixed back seats that with enough access for my child to climb in the back.

I've thought about removing the seat stoppers on manual sedan slider to see if it will gain enough room.

[repoman89]

How much space do you to access the back seats with this setup?

I'd love to find a solution for fixed back seats that with enough access for my child to climb in the back.

I've thought about removing the seat stoppers on manual sedan slider to see if it will gain enough room.

Not the setup you’re asking about but fwiw I can (relatively) easily get into the back seat with my setup (at 5’10, 160 lb) so I’d imagine your child could too. Cobra Nogaro, BK mounts, power sliders off my OEM seats. The seats are mounted in the more reclined position too because that’s what fit me better.

[Obioban]

How much space do you to access the back seats with this setup?

I'd love to find a solution for fixed back seats that with enough access for my child to climb in the back.

I've thought about removing the seat stoppers on manual sedan slider to see if it will gain enough room.

Is removing the stoppers a thing? Link?

[ZiMMie]

Not the setup you’re asking about but fwiw I can (relatively) easily get into the back seat with my setup (at 5’10, 160 lb) so I’d imagine your child could too. Cobra Nogaro, BK mounts, power sliders off my OEM seats. The seats are mounted in the more reclined position too because that’s what fit me better.

The problem is if a TUV engineering deems that opening is not enough for an emergency exit for the rear passengers, they can make you can only a 2 seaters.
Id like to avoid this as much as i can for legal purposes.

[ZiMMie]

Is removing the stoppers a thing? Link?

I have not seen anyone do it but it shouldn't be hard to do a on a manual seat rails. it has a stopper than can be grinned off or punched out.
Sedans manual rails seems to go further/deeper in both directions because of where the stopper is.

on an electric seat rail, its much more complicated as the stopper is the end of the teeth.

[Obioban]

I have not seen anyone do it but it shouldn't be hard to do a on a manual seat rails. it has a stopper than can be grinned off or punched out.
Sedans manual rails seems to go further/deeper in both directions because of where the stopper is.

on an electric seat rail, its much more complicated as the stopper is the end of the teeth.

... I'm going to have to investigate this.

[ZiMMie]

... I'm going to have to investigate this.

Report back your findings .

[Mr.wReckless]

The problem is if a TUV engineering deems that opening is not enough for an emergency exit for the rear passengers, they can make you can only a 2 seaters.
Id like to avoid this as much as i can for legal purposes.

I believe Recaro PP plus their steel mounting solution have a TÜV certificate, at least I think I've seen that box ticked but not seen the actual certificate. But, if so is indeed the case, you could provide evidence of said opening of a Recaro solution and if the Cobra solution is equal you can rest your case?

Regards