Originally posted by maw1124
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An interesting take on the future of the M3 as a restomod...
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You wouldn't buy a 996 GT3 and say 'oh this is 20 years old I guess it needs to be stripped and brought up to modern standards' (except that new CarPlay mod if you do long trips). The M3 is fine with its power and torque from factory, it will putt around a country road at 2k rpm or rip to the stratospheric 8k without complaining either way.
The E46 M3 'restomod' equivalent is simply OEM+, as there is nothing to 'restore'. All that's worth doing is to tweak things that can be improved. Really no engine that can replace the S54 imo.Last edited by BTB; 02-20-2021, 07:04 AM.
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Originally posted by Toby22 View Post
Haha this is hilarious
mawLast edited by maw1124; 02-20-2021, 09:21 AM.
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Originally posted by maw1124 View Post
Indeed it really is... if SMG Verts keep going under appreciated as at current I might be the first to go for an EV conversion ... I have other iconic petrol engines in the stable... but EV technology needs to advance a bit, so the 50/50 ish weight distribution can be maintained... but a pure battery replacement for all the fluid hydraulic stuff in cars of this era makes TONS of sense to me... I see zero reason why the SMG shifting, hydraulic top and Mercedes ABC systems shouldn’t all be pure electric.
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Originally posted by Icecream View Post
The smg’s biggest failure is the electric motor and relay. The hydraulics are usually pristine and dead reliable and can move\react to high loads exceptionally quickly. packaging is probably another reason. Doable for sure (and if built into a car new makes sense) but just cause electric is hot sh** right now doesn’t mean everything has to be converted to electric.....or does it?
mawLast edited by maw1124; 02-20-2021, 12:28 PM.
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Originally posted by Obioban View Postthat’s why Tesla’s products continue to be superior to the German’s2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal
2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal
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Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post
Taycan is the one exception to that imo. If only they weren't so heavy (and expensive)
2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
2012 LMB/Black 128i
2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan
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Originally posted by maw1124 View Post
Robust debate... electric now and electric 20 years ago are on separate planets... that is of course WHY “electric is hot shit right now”... and will continue to be so... it’s also why restomods are a thing worth discussing... the SMG motor and relay are precisely the items that are likely worlds better now than when this car was engineered... you know, kinda like your iPhone today is worlds better than the Mac computers of 2001... you’re aware of this, correct?
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Originally posted by Obioban View Post
Twice the price for half the real world range of the Tesla Model S. And, with refreshed Model S, considerably slower, too. And the back seat in the Taycan is about as spacious as the 3rd row of seats in the Model S (something you can’t get on the Taycan). And the Model S frunk is much more useable.2002 Topasblau M3 - Coupe - 6MT - Karbonius CSL Airbox - MSS54HP Conversion - Kassel MAP - SSV1 - HJS - PCS Tune - Beisan - MK60 Swap - ZCP Rack - Nogaros - AutoSolutions - 996 Brembos - Slon - CMP - VinceBar - Koni - Eibach - BlueBus - Journal
2012 Alpinweiss 128i - Coupe - 6AT - Slicktop - Manual Seats - Daily - Journal
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Originally posted by Icecream View Post
I’m just having some conversation here but feel free to continue to denigrate me.
mawLast edited by maw1124; 02-20-2021, 03:15 PM.
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Originally posted by Obioban View Post
Twice the price for half the real world range of the Tesla Model S. And, with refreshed Model S, considerably slower, too. And the back seat in the Taycan is about as spacious as the 3rd row of seats in the Model S (something you can’t get on the Taycan). And the Model S frunk is much more useable.
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Originally posted by EthanolTurbo View PostWhat about electric motors on the rear axles that are tuned for different power curves by reading data from the DME and applying power as necessary? Would make city driving a breeze, that's for sure. It'd also add weight on the rear at the right place.
edit. No way flywheel has anywhere near enough room. Between the clutch, forks and everything else, nope. Actually the more I think about it the more it seems there just isn’t the room for it anywhere except maybe retrofitting a hub motor at the wheels. Even that seems like it would be a major operation.Last edited by Icecream; 02-22-2021, 01:06 AM.
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