If you ever had to replace your e46 M3

[Obioban]

I'm probably in the minority here (and have never driven one) but I've just never been a fan of the 1M. Felt like such a parts bin car without an S series engine. Also just not a fan of the looks.

Yeah, turbos make me not care, and the e82 interior is crappy and small (said as an e82 owner).

[Hammerfang]

997s are great, my dad has an 09 C4S coupe with a stick and 23k miles and it is awesome. Objectively a better car then my M3, but not the one I lusted over when I was 16, so it’s not as special to me.

[simon_c]

Really wish they made more of them....

https://www.enthusiastauto.com/inven...e82-1m-vp76039

I'm probably in the minority here (and have never driven one) but I've just never been a fan of the 1M. Felt like such a parts bin car without an S series engine. Also just not a fan of the looks.

[ZHLPR]

Really wish they made more of them....

https://www.enthusiastauto.com/inventory/2011-bmw-e82-1m-vp76039

[dHam_Slow.46M]

No.

I never use the cup holders on my (manual) e60 m5 (same cup holders as e9x) because they’re absurdly unreliable at holding drinks… and their location means that, when they fail, the fluids dump on the electronics.

AND they break frequently.

… I use the cup holders in my manual e46 routinely

I've got an RTD long boi in my E46 so, unless its they're made of foam, cups usually end up being my arm rest😂

I've had the cup holders break in the e90 and it was a PITA(and expensive as a broke college kid), mother went to a 997.1 for a short stint when I first got my e46M and I had PTSD from looking at the cup holders. If there ever comes a day where I go back to the e9x platform, I'm velcroing a cup carrier to the passenger seat so I don't have to deal with those dreaded cup holders.

[SQ13]

Interesting. Never experienced this but I've never daily'd any of em but E46. Difficult to grab and easy to knock in E36/E46 it seems. The Porsche does have an adjustable band which seems to work well, perhaps better than E90/E60

The Porsche cupholders scare me bc they feel so flimsy lol. And it sits right above the AC buttons, so any spillage will get on the buttons…happened to me once already 🙃

[fattycharged]

997 indeed has great cup holder. I'd like to find a nice gts 4 with pdk to daily when I don't need the suv


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[BTB]

No.

I never use the cup holders on my (manual) e60 m5 (same cup holders as e9x) because they're absurdly unreliable at holding drinks… and their location means that, when they fail, the fluids dump on the electronics.

AND they break frequently.

… I use the cup holders in my manual e46 routinely

Interesting. Never experienced this but I've never daily'd any of em but E46. Difficult to grab and easy to knock in E36/E46 it seems. The Porsche does have an adjustable band which seems to work well, perhaps better than E90/E60

[Obioban]

997/E90 best cupholders ever ... center console cupholders no bueno with manuel

No.

I never use the cup holders on my (manual) e60 m5 (same cup holders as e9x) because they’re absurdly unreliable at holding drinks… and their location means that, when they fail, the fluids dump on the electronics.

AND they break frequently.

… I use the cup holders in my manual e46 routinely

[BTB]

I'd probably go 1 gen up or down. My mom had a Dakar Yellow E36M so I fell in love with the color early on. She sold the car after a leg injury and couldn't drive manual anymore.

My 1st car was an E90 328i and it was a nice fun whip, but I always looked up to the E90M. Driver ergo was pretty nice, I just HATE the cup holders on the E9x platform(same goes with porsche)

997/E90 best cupholders ever ... center console cupholders no bueno with manuel

[dHam_Slow.46M]

I'd probably go 1 gen up or down. My mom had a Dakar Yellow E36M so I fell in love with the color early on. She sold the car after a leg injury and couldn't drive manual anymore.

My 1st car was an E90 328i and it was a nice fun whip, but I always looked up to the E90M. Driver ergo was pretty nice, I just HATE the cup holders on the E9x platform(same goes with porsche)

[PSUEng]

I had two VW GTIs back in the VR6 days and I think I might be due a Golf R plus I have a weakness for hatchbacks, but the BMW stays. Either that or a manual Supra.

I too had a VR6 GTI (1998) and friend of mine has a 2018 Golf R so I feel you here; next Supra will be more "Toyota".

[CrisSilberGrau]

How’s the reliability on these things? Tbh I’m contemplating either a GR86 or MX-5 RF as a very simple track day car. I’m a fan of “slow car fast.” Not thinking about replacing my e46 with one of these, not now at least, just curious how it is to own one.

Reliability is not great. The car I drove was an insurance car that a friend got after an engine failure. The failure happened after the required breaking period, where the owner then took the car to the track and ironically spun a bearing. To note, all service and maintenance was done correctly for break in and at a dealership (whatever that means these days). He had to fight Toyota for a warranty replacement. I guess if driven leisurely, ie. on the road, it should be fine?

I can't really express how uninteresting it is after the first week of driving it. I thought I'd really enjoy the lightness and chassis, and you do, just not as much as I thought. After you do even some mild work on the 46 front end, the feel we get is second to none, so the GR86 while it felt good out of the box, it was underwhelming.

The engine is truly unremarkable. We're spoiled here I know, but I feel gen 1 and 2 miatas have more song to them. Looks wise the front is nice, the rear end needs fitment, it looks very quirky from the 3/4 view. Digital dash = ultra fail for any sports car.

[Obioban]

Can you elaborate a little on that?

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a44362621/toyota-gr86-subaru-brz-fa24-potential-starvation-issue/

[Nate047]

The GR86 engine is not reliable at all when tracked.

Can you elaborate a little on that?