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    Originally posted by jbfrancis3 View Post
    I didn't explain that well. The committed buyers would be aggregated on Euroconnex. That's the value of the group buy to the vendor, I'm guessing. However many XX buyers ready to go. Once the programmed threshold is met then completion of checkout enabled via connection (connex?) to the vendor's site.
    I am actually reinvesting the little that is made into a marketplace payment solution with Stripe.

    It will allow members to checkout and pay the brands directly via the Connex.

    It’s still about 30-60 days out.

    This will absolutely streamline the process for future group buys.

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      Originally posted by Jalomedra View Post

      Wait, you paid basically the same amount of money for retail V1s and uncatted section 1 than what you would have paid for V1s and cats in the group buy? Instead of splitting the headers and cats with someone who just wanted cats and paying half of what you did? That's hilarious.
      I have no desire to be a part of this GB. I think I have made that pretty clear.
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        Originally posted by Arith2 View Post

        I have no desire to be a part of this GB. I think I have made that pretty clear.
        Please stop posting on this thread if you have no interest in it any longer. I’d be interested in reading your insights on the product/recommendation rather than just complaints.

        The kind of comment like yours makes it so hard to look for good content/feedback from other forum members because now we all have to scroll through 39 pages of junk just to find a few useful posts.

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          Originally posted by CheckA View Post

          Please stop posting on this thread if you have no interest in it any longer. I’d be interested in reading your insights on the product/recommendation rather than just complaints.

          The kind of comment like yours makes it so hard to look for good content/feedback from other forum members because now we all have to scroll through 39 pages of junk just to find a few useful posts.
          Some feedback: the cats are well worth it. For around $3k for headers with the high quality 2.5” HJS piece, you’d have to be pretty special to pay retail just to avoid buying the cats for well under $1k extra. I ran catless for a few months shortly after I bought the car (came that way from the PO) and it felt like a cheap lawnmower smelling POS. It was embarrassing honestly. I’ve had the catted V1 setup since the 50% off group buy 3-4 years back (only marginally cheaper than this) … makes more power now and doesn’t ruin my interior and clothes. Car has enough power on the track and too much on the street.

          Im having a hard time holding off on completing the system with the 2.5” section 2 and street muffler but I want cams and a CF roof more.

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            it's easy to shit on other people when you're not willing to provide alternative options... if you don't wanna participate then keep walking
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              Originally posted by Arith2 View Post

              I have no desire to be a part of this GB. I think I have made that pretty clear.
              Then why are you commenting in this thread? 🙄

              Pretty sad what some people do to make themselves feel superior over others.
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                No need to dogpile guys, point has been made. Let the thread continue.
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                  Originally posted by repoman89 View Post

                  Some feedback: the cats are well worth it. For around $3k for headers with the high quality 2.5” HJS piece, you’d have to be pretty special to pay retail just to avoid buying the cats for well under $1k extra. I ran catless for a few months shortly after I bought the car (came that way from the PO) and it felt like a cheap lawnmower smelling POS. It was embarrassing honestly. I’ve had the catted V1 setup since the 50% off group buy 3-4 years back (only marginally cheaper than this) … makes more power now and doesn’t ruin my interior and clothes. Car has enough power on the track and too much on the street.

                  Im having a hard time holding off on completing the system with the 2.5” section 2 and street muffler but I want cams and a CF roof more.
                  Totally agree on all points. Inferior cats aren’t worth it either as I found by trying the Magnaflow’s once.

                  If I could give my $0.02...well worth it to do the whole system now. It’s possibly the best pricing you’ll get and you’re already doing the exhaust work so there will some efficiencies to you or the installer. There is a cams group buy in the pipeline so you could stand to benefit by waiting.
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                    Originally posted by jbfrancis3 View Post

                    Totally agree on all points. Inferior cats aren’t worth it either as I found by trying the Magnaflow’s once.

                    If I could give my $0.02...well worth it to do the whole system now. It’s possibly the best pricing you’ll get and you’re already doing the exhaust work so there will some efficiencies to you or the installer. There is a cams group buy in the pipeline so you could stand to benefit by waiting.
                    I want to continue my 2.5" as well (stock section 2) but worry without cams it might rob power and/or quiet my exhaust down too much.
                    I think it's more or less been unofficially decided that unless you have airbox and cams the full 2.5" isn't the way to go. I'll probably never do the cams, although I never thought I would do the airbox either for that matter.
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                      Originally posted by Cubieman View Post

                      I want to continue my 2.5" as well (stock section 2) but worry without cams it might rob power and/or quiet my exhaust down too much.
                      I think it's more or less been unofficially decided that unless you have airbox and cams the full 2.5" isn't the way to go. I'll probably never do the cams, although I never thought I would do the airbox either for that matter.
                      Interesting point about robbing power without the cams. I went ahead and got the section 2, and am working out a V1 setup now. I can deal with a small potential of ribbed power for a short period, especially if the Shrick cams GB comes to fruition.

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                        Originally posted by Cubieman View Post

                        I want to continue my 2.5" as well (stock section 2) but worry without cams it might rob power and/or quiet my exhaust down too much.
                        I think it's more or less been unofficially decided that unless you have airbox and cams the full 2.5" isn't the way to go. I'll probably never do the cams, although I never thought I would do the airbox either for that matter.
                        That being said I’m currently not maximizing my power down low thanks to my ARH. The V1 setup should only bump me up a bit if anything. The section 2 will be like a preventative addition while I wait on these cams. Either way, I think going to a 2.5” setup from headers all the way to section 2 will only benefit me as of now, and give me room to grow when the 280/272s come in.

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                          I currently have catless SS V1 mated to SS V1 section 1 and the OEM section 2 (bought used mid install because the Dixis muffler wouldn't mate to my Miltek section 2) all tuned by Paul Claude. The rasp is so intense with the Dixis, I am hoping the resonated SS 2.5 section 2 will alleviate some of it. Cams may be an option in the future but not an airbox.

                          1. Anyone know if the SS section 2 will reduce the rasp in comparison to OEM? (already committed to GB and willing to take the cost risk)
                          2. If I lose power with this setup, where is that on the band? Low or midrange torque, upper?
                          3. Another member here mentioned the Dixis will mate with SS 2.5 section 2, can anyone else confirm?

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                            Originally posted by binary View Post
                            I currently have catless SS V1 mated to SS V1 section 1 and the OEM section 2 (bought used mid install because the Dixis muffler wouldn't mate to my Miltek section 2) all tuned by Paul Claude. The rasp is so intense with the Dixis, I am hoping the resonated SS 2.5 section 2 will alleviate some of it. Cams may be an option in the future but not an airbox.
                            Is your section 1 resonated?
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                              Originally posted by binary View Post
                              I currently have catless SS V1 mated to SS V1 section 1 and the OEM section 2 (bought used mid install because the Dixis muffler wouldn't mate to my Miltek section 2) all tuned by Paul Claude. The rasp is so intense with the Dixis, I am hoping the resonated SS 2.5 section 2 will alleviate some of it. Cams may be an option in the future but not an airbox.

                              1. Anyone know if the SS section 2 will reduce the rasp in comparison to OEM? (already committed to GB and willing to take the cost risk)
                              2. If I lose power with this setup, where is that on the band? Low or midrange torque, upper?
                              3. Another member here mentioned the Dixis will mate with SS 2.5 section 2, can anyone else confirm?

                              The SS dual res. section 2 would most definitely eliminate some rasp, I think most of this is from the resonance inside thicker walled stainless piping as compared to OEM, but I may be wrong.
                              Search for Obioban's review of this part and you'll read about how it quites the exhaust down in general as well as eliminating some rasp.

                              If you lose power I would imagine we are talking low end duo decreased back pressure and over-kill piping diameter for not enough air flow from engine.
                              I'm my mind this pipe is only for cammed/airboxed cars, but I only base that on what I've read so once again, I may be wrong.

                              The Dixis should mount up to the SS Sec. 2 just fine but with aftermarket parts there can always be fitment issues as it sounds like you may have run into with the Miltek. My SSV1'S and/or SCZA muffler cause my OE section 2 to almost hit the diff OPF, I want the oversized SS Sec.2 but know it would make contact and I don't want a can a worms there.
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                                Originally posted by Cubieman View Post


                                The SS dual res. section 2 would most definitely eliminate some rasp, I think most of this is from the resonance inside thicker walled stainless piping as compared to OEM, but I may be wrong.
                                Search for Obioban's review of this part and you'll read about how it quites the exhaust down in general as well as eliminating some rasp.

                                If you lose power I would imagine we are talking low end duo decreased back pressure and over-kill piping diameter for not enough air flow from engine.
                                I'm my mind this pipe is only for cammed/airboxed cars, but I only base that on what I've read so once again, I may be wrong.

                                The Dixis should mount up to the SS Sec. 2 just fine but with aftermarket parts there can always be fitment issues as it sounds like you may have run into with the Miltek. My SSV1'S and/or SCZA muffler cause my OE section 2 to almost hit the diff OPF, I want the oversized SS Sec.2 but know it would make contact and I don't want a can a worms there.
                                Thank you for your input. I've read Obioban's review (and every thing I could find on the 2.5) but I shall re-read as it was a while back. If I remember correctly, he enjoyed the change in tone and Tbone did not but their cars are far more modified than mine so I don't know what to expect really.

                                I am a bit concerned with over piping this system. My thought is that I already have 2.5 in the headers, section 1 (no added resonators) and may as well add the oversized section 2 to match. Glad to hear it should quiet/tone down the rasp, that's why I'll give this a shot. I bought the car with the Miltek Section 2/3 and the car had zero rasp so I never experienced it or understood why some do not enjoy it. Then I added Dixis with the OEM 2 and introduced mega rasp, like ear splitting with the windows down. I think the nature of the Dixis Ti amplifies the rasp but I don't have another car to compare. Bummer on your clearance issue, I wonder if its the SCZA and the angle where it likes to sit.

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