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[0-60motorsports]

Well I've been busy for the past few weeks as my wife and I had our first child! Apologies if you've PMed me and I haven't gotten back to you yet - I will! I'm typing this one handed with a baby in the other arm..

In the meantime, a question for you: Big bike or small car?

Congrats!

[karter16]

Well I've been busy for the past few weeks as my wife and I had our first child! Apologies if you've PMed me and I haven't gotten back to you yet - I will! I'm typing this one handed with a baby in the other arm..

In the meantime, a question for you: Big bike or small car?

Ah congratulations to you both! Very pleased to hear!!! Enjoy this special time :-)


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[Bry5on]

Well I've been busy for the past few weeks as my wife and I had our first child! Apologies if you've PMed me and I haven't gotten back to you yet - I will! I'm typing this one handed with a baby in the other arm..

In the meantime, a question for you: Big bike or small car?

[Arclitgold]

I’m in awe of the engineering effort happening here. Keep it up!

[Bry5on]

I assumed (haha, yes I know) that the sensor to bearing design/location would be the same or close enough for either option. But that is a good point about the E6x M cars being an option.

When the time comes I'll cross the MCS bridge if needed, not a total issue right now but I would prefer the SK because it just looks so wild, it'll be fitting on Eileen especially with all the carbon

One way or another we’ll find the way!

[George Hill]

You should check the mounting/sensors for e60 M5 knuckle. The M5 uses the e9x style sensing and if the knuckle has the same sensor mounting as the non-M5 e60, that’d do it for you. Just use the e60 M5 stuff up front in either knuckle.

Also we could technically weld to this super knuckle to add a saddle clamp and make it MCS compatible… after testing the base design of course.

I assumed (haha, yes I know) that the sensor to bearing design/location would be the same or close enough for either option. But that is a good point about the E6x M cars being an option.

When the time comes I'll cross the MCS bridge if needed, not a total issue right now but I would prefer the SK because it just looks so wild, it'll be fitting on Eileen especially with all the carbon

[Bry5on]

Yes, I've been watching their development and its pretty cool. I like all the features they've built into it (even if they are not ideal for every instance). I look at it like they too Bryson's idea and made it more applicable to scaling and mass adoption. I feel like Bryson's takes what they've done to the next level without any constraints.

For my project I need to run an E9x front wheel bearing but now that I have MCS's I'm stuck in the middle, haha.

Either way Bryson's SK is now waiting on me, I need to get on the lathe and make the ball joint inserts.

You should check the mounting/sensors for e60 M5 knuckle. The M5 uses the e9x style sensing and if the knuckle has the same sensor mounting as the non-M5 e60, that’d do it for you. Just use the e60 M5 stuff up front in either knuckle.

Also we could technically weld to this super knuckle to add a saddle clamp and make it MCS compatible… after testing the base design of course.

[George Hill]

Yes, I've been watching their development and its pretty cool. I like all the features they've built into it (even if they are not ideal for every instance). I look at it like they too Bryson's idea and made it more applicable to scaling and mass adoption. I feel like Bryson's takes what they've done to the next level without any constraints.

For my project I need to run an E9x front wheel bearing but now that I have MCS's I'm stuck in the middle, haha.

Either way Bryson's SK is now waiting on me, I need to get on the lathe and make the ball joint inserts.

[Bry5on]

I've noticed this pattern a few times now - the developments that happen on this forum are certainly watched by others! The more the better IMHO as it all helps drive innovation and options for the community!

I agree, I’m digging this! I like their approach to keeping it a CNC part too. Their version will be compatible with MCS coilovers, which is cool, but at the cost of some negative camber loss in the corners.

George and I are scheming a setup to test the super knuckle and a factory knuckle to failure on an actual chassis, so we’ll be able to quantify the camber loss while we’re at it.

[karter16]

The super knuckle has a CNC machined admirer!

I've noticed this pattern a few times now - the developments that happen on this forum are certainly watched by others! The more the better IMHO as it all helps drive innovation and options for the community!

[Bry5on]

The super knuckle has a CNC machined admirer! Looks like they’re using the same insert strategy too. This one is for 25mm lowered cars (probably most M3s) and claims to correct geometry. Good idea but at 25mm lower it’s probably moving the KPI and scrub radius in order to not impact or be too close to the rotor. I also wonder what the weight is! Using the same e60 wheel bearing & sensor which is pretty heavy. Very cool!

https://www.instagram.com/p/DRGQXmMgftS/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

[3staxontheradio]

Yeah I printed the carrier and a selector rod. All pivot surfaces are delrin, reamed holes, and high tolerance shoulder bolts. Zero slop or play. I did a gs6-37bz conversion on my e36 s54 car and originally I had an off the shelf conversion kit/carrier but the carrier fit really badly with my setup and needed a ton of rubber bushing deflection to even install in the car, and that prevented me from using stiffer carrier bushings. Also the pivot height and giubo clearance made for a super tall shift throw. I don't want to crap up your thread but I have more info here:

https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/main-forum/member-build-journals/271587-1997-m3-sedan-with-s54-swap

[Bry5on]

I haven't used them yet. I have used ProtoTI and 3DPNXT also on craftcloud. I started adding a production note asking them to leave 1-2mm of all support interfaces attached so I could grind them off myself. I think these places are pumping out parts and they aren't that careful with post processing. My first shift lever revision the ball was so out of round from being overground I couldn't use it.


This is what it looked like with the support remnants and after I did the removal:

Clever idea to do a shifter. Did you go full ham and put bearings in it? Looks like there’s a grub screw hole there. Did you also print the carrier, and if so did you do the e39 M5 style double grommet trick with the extended bitch clip? Always wondered if that would help the M3 shift quality.

Definitely more printed parts in my future - I really want an excuse to do something from Ti too.

[3staxontheradio]

I haven't used them yet. I have used ProtoTI and 3DPNXT also on craftcloud. I started adding a production note asking them to leave 1-2mm of all support interfaces attached so I could grind them off myself. I think these places are pumping out parts and they aren't that careful with post processing. My first shift lever revision the ball was so out of round from being overground I couldn't use it.


This is what it looked like with the support remnants and after I did the removal:

[Bry5on]

Who did the printing for your uprights? The support removal looks really good and not excessive like I have had on some of my parts.

I used Shenzhen 3D Innovate through Craftcloud. The second article (other side) had a little more excess removal than the first, so I may have to give the bearing surface a grind to make it nice and flat.

On closer inspections the holes didn’t come in under by .2mm, they were holding cylindricity of about .2mm. The ream operation made that clear.

Otherwise they both came out pretty well.