Comprehensive MSS54/MSS54HP DME Information

[R3Z3N]

Is there anyone that knows what is required to do the drive by wire delete,(software wise). So that you can use drive by cable on the S54?
Thanks in advance

There is no good reason to do drive by cable with this engine/ECU.

[heinzboehmer]

My understand is the MSS54 vs MSS54HP only difference is the flash PROM chips, 256KB vs 256KB. So to convert the MSS54 board to MSS54HP, one needs to remove the 2 chips (256KB) from a S54HP then read and save the files using something like the chip programmer below, then program the files into the two new chips (256k), i.e. AM29F400BB-60SC
from https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...W34bxMGA%3D%3D
then solder the new programmed chips back to the S54 DME board and now it become a S54HP DME.
Have anyone done this before?

https://www.batronix.com/shop/progra...e%20USB%20port.

https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/special-interests/coding-tuning/2509-converting-an-mss54-hp-into-an-mss54hp-csl-h-bridge

[sapote]

My understand is the MSS54 vs MSS54HP only difference is the flash PROM chips, 256KB vs 512KB. So to convert the MSS54 board to MSS54HP, one needs to remove the 2 chips (512KB) from a S54HP then read and save the files using something like the chip programmer below, then program the files into the two new chips (512K), i.e. AM29F400BB-60SC
from https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail...W34bxMGA%3D%3D
then solder the new programmed chips back to the S54 DME board and now it become a S54HP DME.
Have anyone done this before?

https://www.batronix.com/shop/progra...e%20USB%20port.

[sapote]

Is there anyone that knows what is required to do the drive by wire delete,(software wise). So that you can use drive by cable on the S54?
Thanks in advance

This drive by cable never works for SMG as the DME needs to control the rpm.
For 6mt, I'm sure the DME needs to be bypassed the gas pedal encoded data input to avoid it generating the error flag when the TB position feedback not matching with the pedal input.

[Basketcase]

Is there anyone that knows what is required to do the drive by wire delete,(software wise). So that you can use drive by cable on the S54?
Thanks in advance

[pasqua]

Hello I am new on the forum I live in Corsica so please excuse the spelling which comes from google translation my car is a m3 e46 from 2002 where i have already installed the mss54hp with the csl nose and the carbon box i would like to know how to check that the binfull csl is correctly installed because the program numbers in the dme do not change after the flash thank you

[R3Z3N]

Slowly translating the MSS54 funktion document. Otherwise there are hints such as what K_MD_ASC stand for

The readme.md of the first page at github gives some info such as:

K - constants, ie bit switches, flags, etc
KL - Kennlinnie - dataline, for example the linearization curves for sensors
KF - Kennfeld - Map table
The format usually sticks to type_datacontent_axis_axis so KF_TI_N_RF is map:injection:rpm:relative filling

and:

AR ANTIRUCKELFUNKTION Anti-bucking AQ AQUER aquer AUSS Aussetzerkennung Misfire code/detection BA BA ?? BZ Betriebszustaende Operating states CAN CAN_Schnittstelle CAN bus interface/control CAN CAN_Schnittstelle-Slave CAN bus interface/control slave DA D/A_Konfiguration Digital/Analog conversion/configuration DKBA DKBA Contains Alpha-N map DWF Drehzahlwarnfeld Speed warning field DSV Druckspeicherventil Accumulator valve DYN Dynamik dynamics EDK EDK Throttle Body EDISI EDK_Soll_Ist EDK actual EGAS EGAS Electronic Throttle system ?? Eigendiagnose self-diagnosis TI Einspritzung injection ELU Elektroluefter electric fan FGR FGR Cruise Control FR FUELLUNGSREGLER Combustion controller (adapt values) ?? Fehlerfilter Kontrolle error filter VDIAG Fz_Geschwindigkeit Vehicle speed GANG Gangerkennung Gear Recognition/Detection KATH Katheiz_Funktion Catalytic heater function KATS Katschutz Catalytic protection KKOS Klimaanlage air conditioning KM Klopfen knock EKP Kraftstoffpumpe Fuel pump LLR LEERLAUFREGLER Idle control ?? Lambda lambda ?? Lambda-OBD Lambda OBD ?? Lambdadiagnose lambda diagnosis ?? Lamdasondenheizung Lambda probe heating HFM Lasterfassung load detection LU Laufunruhe rough running LL LeerLaufSYNChornisation Idle synchronization LFR Leerlaufregelung Idle speed control LLS Leerlaufsteller Idle adjuster ?? Messwerte Observations MD Momentenmanager Moment Manager NO_FUNCTION NO_FUNCTION Miscellaneous OEK OEK ?? TOG Oelniveaugeber Oil level sensor/readings PDR PDR varies with time (?) ?? Relativer_Oeffnungsquerschnitt relative opening cross SA_WE SA_WE Temperature functions SSP Saugstrahlpumpe eductor SWE Schlechtweg-Erkennung rough road detection SLS, SLP, SLV Sekundaerluftsystem Secondary air system SERVO Servotronic Servotronic adjustable steering ratio system (non-M3) SK Sicherheitskonzept Security concept START Startrelais Starter relay ?? System_Kontrolle System control TW TPU_Synchronisation TPU synchronization TE, TEA Tankentlueftung Tank vent or Evaporator canister purge control LDP Tankleckdiagnose Tank leak diagnosis EVAN, AVAN Vanos EVAN: Intake Vanos, AVAN: Exhaust Vanos ?? Versionskontrolle version control TZ Zuendung ignition SMG smg smg

[NewHouseTM]

Is there any wiki or help that tells what each function of the XDF does?

[E46m3zcp]

Im thinking maybe Rohacell.com
They have an automotive product

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[heinzboehmer]

What is the 0DA supposed to be used for ? How do they relate to each other ?

An 0DA daten file and a partial bin contain the same data, they're just structured differently. Binaries are just easier to work with because of all the tools available that can interact with them (like Martyn's tool and the xdf definitions for tuner pro on GitHub). There's even tools available to convert between 0DA and bin files: https://www.ecuworx.co.uk/2016/03/09...tool-released/.

To be honest, I've never messed around with 0DA files because the binaries are easier to work with.

[E46m3zcp]

0DA files are just binary files in BMW's format, per say. But yes they hold the data section of the EEPROMs. It's easier to just read either the full or partial (otherwise known as the tune) binary using MSSFlasher or BMWFlash and make changes to that.

Thanks for all the info. I carefully read the PDF and I was able to read my DME and save the bin file. I can tell my version code is 211323002701JD79 for instance. Now using 010 Editor to compare the tune file to the 0DA file I can tell they are very different. What is the 0DA supposed to be used for ? How do they relate to each other ?

I am trying to figure out which of the 0DA correponds to the version of my DME by looking at the bin file. The table in this thread has '????' as the 2 last bytes of the version code for the current candidates : A7842978, A7842980, A7843302 and A7843304. However, looking for '2113' in each of these files I found that the full version code seems to be

A7842978 --- 211323002701J429 X
A7842980 --- 211323002701J469 9
A7843302 --- 211323002701JD39 9
A7843304 --- 211323002701JD79 L

I guess this means I have version 7.842.981 released on 23-Apr-2009 and that my DME has the latest software release.

[heinzboehmer]

Terra knows the rough cutoff for non-HP to HP. I believe it is after the facelift in late 03.5. Neither 10/02 and 11/02 that I checked had an HP.

Hmm honestly not too surprised that the actual cutoff is different, I was just going off what RealOEM says. I'm assuming it 09/02 because that's when the CSL started coming out.

Edit: just realized terra responded earlier to this thread saying that M3s built after 09/03 all came with HPs.

[Slideways]

Yeah regular M3s with build dates after 09/02 came with MSS54HPs. These run different firmware than the CSL DMEs though, which is why you'll hear about "CSL DME conversions".

You can use whatever hex editor you like to read and modify a binary. The offset refers to the location of the data (e.g., offset 0x0 is the first byte in the binary and offset 0xA is the eleventh byte in the binary).

0DA files are just binary files in BMW's format, per say. But yes they hold the data section of the EEPROMs. It's easier to just read either the full or partial (otherwise known as the tune) binary using MSSFlasher or BMWFlash and make changes to that.

This document provides a great introduction to all of this and will probably answer most of your questions: https://github.com/saildot4k/MSS54-X...dification.pdf

Terra knows the rough cutoff for non-HP to HP. I believe it is after the facelift in late 03.5. Neither 10/02 and 11/02 that I checked had an HP.

[heinzboehmer]

When you say it's only related to year, does it mean some late non-CSLs M3s are equipped with MSS54HPs ?
Also do we know what changes the newer DME software versions (say 2009 vs 2006) bring ?

How should I interpret the HEX data shown in this thread (the one showing the offset and bytes corresponding to options)? Is it the contents of the EEPROM memory ? What are the 0DA files ? Are they the exact binary program to be flashed onto the DME EEPROM ? So could I interpret and modify an ODA with say a text editor and enable/disable features, then flash it to my DME? I am very new to this, thanks for being patient with my noob questions

Cheers!

Yeah regular M3s with build dates after 09/02 came with MSS54HPs. These run different firmware than the CSL DMEs though, which is why you'll hear about "CSL DME conversions".

You can use whatever hex editor you like to read and modify a binary. The offset refers to the location of the data (e.g., offset 0x0 is the first byte in the binary and offset 0xA is the eleventh byte in the binary).

0DA files are just binary files in BMW's format, per say. But yes they hold the data section of the EEPROMs. It's easier to just read either the full or partial (otherwise known as the tune) binary using MSSFlasher or BMWFlash and make changes to that.

This document provides a great introduction to all of this and will probably answer most of your questions: https://github.com/saildot4k/MSS54-X...dification.pdf

[E46m3zcp]

Nope. Hardware differences are only related to year (HP vs non-HP). Firmware is different though.

When you say it's only related to year, does it mean some late non-CSLs M3s are equipped with MSS54HPs ?
Also do we know what changes the newer DME software versions (say 2009 vs 2006) bring ?

How should I interpret the HEX data shown in this thread (the one showing the offset and bytes corresponding to options)? Is it the contents of the EEPROM memory ? What are the 0DA files ? Are they the exact binary program to be flashed onto the DME EEPROM ? So could I interpret and modify an ODA with say a text editor and enable/disable features, then flash it to my DME? I am very new to this, thanks for being patient with my noob questions

Cheers!