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  • Slideways
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    Originally posted by timmo View Post



    This could be it - this was my first outing with coilovers, that plus cooler weather and better driving resulted in going from a 1:29.1 to a 1:25.9. Do you guys know if running different compounds front/rear messes with the brake bias too much? I'm thinking of keeping HPS in the rear (to keep costs down) since there's a ton of meat left on my 1st set, and getting DTC-60s on the front next year.
    It could. According to this chart, the DTC-60 and HPS have a very different coefficient of friction and temp operating window:

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  • timmo
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    Originally posted by Slideways View Post
    It looks like you need a dedicated track pad. Perhaps your driving skills are improving and you are carrying higher speeds and braking later than before.
    Originally posted by foolio View Post

    Came here to say this.
    This could be it - this was my first outing with coilovers, that plus cooler weather and better driving resulted in going from a 1:29.1 to a 1:25.9. Do you guys know if running different compounds front/rear messes with the brake bias too much? I'm thinking of keeping HPS in the rear (to keep costs down) since there's a ton of meat left on my 1st set, and getting DTC-60s on the front next year.

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  • foolio
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    Originally posted by Slideways View Post
    It looks like you need a dedicated track pad. Perhaps your driving skills are improving and you are carrying higher speeds and braking later than before.
    Came here to say this.

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  • Slideways
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    It looks like you need a dedicated track pad. Perhaps your driving skills are improving and you are carrying higher speeds and braking later than before.

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  • timmo
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    Originally posted by racinghart View Post
    Did this happen on all 4 corners? How do all of the pads look? I’ve seen this before with a sticking caliper causing brake drag and overheating the material.
    I haven't gotten a chance to take stuff apart so I can't comment on the pads. This was the front LH corner, makes sense as it's a RH track - front RH corner was similar but not as bad. Rears are fine.

    This is my rotor before this last track day, after 3 events with HPS pads:



    Perhaps I should go for a casual drive, then check if the areas near the wheel bearing are hot. However I did street drive it and autox it quite a bit with the current pads before this outing and they seemed to be ok
    Last edited by timmo; 09-23-2020, 07:21 AM.

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  • racinghart
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    Did this happen on all 4 corners? How do all of the pads look? I’ve seen this before with a sticking caliper causing brake drag and overheating the material.

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  • timmo
    started a topic Brake Rotor Deposit/Grooving

    Brake Rotor Deposit/Grooving

    Does anyone know what would cause this? This is after 1 track day with HPS pads and Zimmermann rotors. I know, I know... HPS aren't meant to be track pads, but I haven't had any issues with them aside from going through pad material like crazy. I ran 4 track days with the first set I bought and the rotors had a bit of grooving, but nothing abnormal. Pad thickness is about equal inside and out, from what I can see without taking the caliper off.

    Truth be told it might be my fault because I didn't bed the pads in when I replaced them - however I thought that was only necessary when switching pad compounds, and since I was replacing old HPS pads with new HPS pads, I wouldn't have to do so. Perhaps that would do it?




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