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    Suspension settings question - Picture request BBS RC or Arc-8's

    Hi All,

    I wanted to get some suggestions on the suspension settings like front/rear camber and toe for the new wheel/tire setup that I am going for. I would really appreciate it if you could share pictures and suspension settings if you are running a similar wheel setup with close or exact measurements to mine. The ideal setting would help me to achieve a comfortable streetcar without any rubbing and a good stance.

    Setup that I am going for:
    Wheels: BBS RC | Front RC303 18x8.5 ET38 | Rear RC301 18x10 ET25
    Tires: Michelin PS4S | Front 245/40/18 | Rear 275/35/18

    Many folks are running Apex ARC-8 wheels which are based on BBS RC's, so I will really appreciate it if you can pitch in,


    Thanks in advance.
    _Singh
    Last edited by Singh; 07-29-2021, 02:33 PM.
    -Singh
    2004 e46 ///3 | Laguna Seca Blue | Black Leather | 6MT | Coupe | OEM+
    BBS RC | Supersprint | Ground Control | Besian | Euro

    #2
    Those should be a pretty easy fitment on the E46 M3 and shouldn't require anything extreme.
    2003 Imola Red M3 w/ SMG

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      #3
      Originally posted by K-Dawg View Post
      Those should be a pretty easy fitment on the E46 M3 and shouldn't require anything extreme.
      Thanks. I was interested to see what other folks have learned by tweaking the camber settings for a perfect stance
      -Singh
      2004 e46 ///3 | Laguna Seca Blue | Black Leather | 6MT | Coupe | OEM+
      BBS RC | Supersprint | Ground Control | Besian | Euro

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        #4
        There is no perfect. Whatever you want. Some want extreme poke, others like a tucked look. Buy the wheels you want, then get spacers in 3mm or 5m and 10mm and play around with that and your camber (lower control arm).

        * Toe will go further in as you increase the length of lower control arm balljoint to diff (more neg camber)
        DD: /// 2011.5 Jerez/bamboo E90 M3 · DCT · Slicktop · Instagram
        /// 2004 Silvergrey M3 · Coupe · 6spd · Slicktop · zero options
        More info: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...os-supersprint

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          #5
          Originally posted by Tbonem3 View Post
          There is no perfect. Whatever you want. Some want extreme poke, others like a tucked look. Buy the wheels you want, then get spacers in 3mm or 5m and 10mm and play around with that and your camber (lower control arm).

          * Toe will go further in as you increase the length of lower control arm balljoint to diff (more neg camber)
          Thank you for the tip. I want to stay away from spacers, or at least trying to
          -Singh
          2004 e46 ///3 | Laguna Seca Blue | Black Leather | 6MT | Coupe | OEM+
          BBS RC | Supersprint | Ground Control | Besian | Euro

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            #6
            Going by memory, you probably want to be in this range for a street car:

            Front:
            Camber: -2.0 to -2.5 deg
            Toe: 0

            Rear:
            Camber: -1.5 to -2.0 deg
            Toe: 1/8" total in
            2003 Imola Red M3 w/ SMG

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              #7
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              18x8.5 et38 with anything over say 1.6ish camber will be heavily inset while the rear at 18x10 et25 is going to be pretty flush. I'm 19x9 et28 and 2 degrees camber on the front with no rub. 19x10 et25 in the rear.
              Last edited by oceansize; 07-29-2021, 05:02 PM.
              3.91 | CMP Subframe & RTAB Bushings | SMG (Relocated & Rebuilt) | ESS Gen 3 Supercharger | Redish | Beisan | GC Coilovers & ARCAs | Imola Interior | RE Rasp | RE Diablo | Storm Motorwerks Paddles | Will ZCPM3 Shift Knob | Apex ARC-8 19x9, 19x9.5 | Sony XAV-AX5000 | BAVSOUND | CSL & 255 SMG Upgrades | Tiag | Vert w/Hardtop

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                #8
                Agreed, you probably won't be happy with 8.5"et38 with a reasonable (or more) amount of camber in without spacers.

                CSL 8.5"et44 looks quite sunken without any spacer. I even wish it looked more aggressive than with the 15mm that I run...
                DD: /// 2011.5 Jerez/bamboo E90 M3 · DCT · Slicktop · Instagram
                /// 2004 Silvergrey M3 · Coupe · 6spd · Slicktop · zero options
                More info: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...os-supersprint

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by K-Dawg View Post
                  Going by memory, you probably want to be in this range for a street car:

                  Front:
                  Camber: -2.0 to -2.5 deg
                  Toe: 0

                  Rear:
                  Camber: -1.5 to -2.0 deg
                  Toe: 1/8" total in
                  Thank you sir 👍
                  -Singh
                  2004 e46 ///3 | Laguna Seca Blue | Black Leather | 6MT | Coupe | OEM+
                  BBS RC | Supersprint | Ground Control | Besian | Euro

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by oceansize View Post

                    18x8.5 et38 with anything over say 1.6ish camber will be heavily inset while the rear at 18x10 et25 is going to be pretty flush. I'm 19x9 et28 and 2 degrees camber on the front with no rub. 19x10 et25 in the rear.
                    Thank you for the tip 👍, Your car looks sweet
                    -Singh
                    2004 e46 ///3 | Laguna Seca Blue | Black Leather | 6MT | Coupe | OEM+
                    BBS RC | Supersprint | Ground Control | Besian | Euro

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Tbonem3 View Post
                      Agreed, you probably won't be happy with 8.5"et38 with a reasonable (or more) amount of camber in without spacers.

                      CSL 8.5"et44 looks quite sunken without any spacer. I even wish it looked more aggressive than with the 15mm that I run...
                      You are right man, I will probably test out some spacers in the front 🤝
                      -Singh
                      2004 e46 ///3 | Laguna Seca Blue | Black Leather | 6MT | Coupe | OEM+
                      BBS RC | Supersprint | Ground Control | Besian | Euro

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                        #12
                        I have the bbs RGR in 18x8.5 et38 in front and it's an easy fitment. Helluva lot better than the stock wheels but not aggressive where you need to be careful about rubbing. Running stock camber for tire life they look nice.

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                          #13
                          That is awesome sir, thanks for chiming in. Are you running any spacers upfront? Would love to see some pictures as well.

                          Got the below settings from the build journal:




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                          -Singh
                          2004 e46 ///3 | Laguna Seca Blue | Black Leather | 6MT | Coupe | OEM+
                          BBS RC | Supersprint | Ground Control | Besian | Euro

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                            #14
                            paging Obioban
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                              #15
                              18x10 et25 rear
                              18x8.5 et38 front
                              no spacers
                              stock alignment
                              dinan springs

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