Race track only brake pads

[liam821]

I'm trying to pick some race track only no street use brake pads. I just ordered an AP BBKs (AP CP8350 calipers, j-hook rotors) for my race car and am going back and forth on pads. The big four I'm looking at are Ferodo DS1.11, Ferodo DS3.12, Hawk DTC-60, and Raybestos ST-43.

The tl;dr; from internet reviews I've found are (correct me if I'm wrong):

Hawk DTC-60: Hard on rotors, easy to bed, half the life of the ST43s, works well until they don't
Raybestos ST-43: Lasts forever, easy to modulate, much easier on rotors, hard to bed-in, extremely difficult to bed-in if rotors had any other pad previously
Ferodo DS3.12: Essex (US's only AP dealer) recommends these, the internet seems to like them. Longest pad life of Ferodo's racing range under track use. Twice the price as the ones above
Ferodo DS1.11: Harder on rotors under race conditions as the 3.12s, but not as aggressive bite. Lower temperate range than the DS3.12. Twice the price as the DTC60/ST43s.

I'm a bit worried about running too aggressive a pad (DS3.12) which will overwhelm the rear brakes - I'm running stock rear brakes with Hawk race pads.

Does anybody have any two cents they'd like to add?

[Sharocks]

I ran ST43's on my Brembo GTR kit on the street for about 7k miles. They ate my Type V rotor rings. Which is typical but they are almost smoked as well. So it depends on your driving style and how much of it.

ST43's might be my favorite pad compound that's NOT full race compound. Very easy to modulate, I found really easy to bed in, but decently hard on rotors (to be expected, especially if it gets cold near you) and decently priced.

[Obioban]

All Hawk pads are trash, so I'd nix that idea.

No performance friction options?

[xingster]

Have been using raybestos st43 and they are great for the track and lasts a long time. Squeals a ton, chews up rotors after 4-5 track days (tried blanks and cryo slotted). the brake dust really eats at rims if not removed.


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[liam821]

All Hawk pads are trash, so I'd nix that idea.

No performance friction options?

Open to options! What do you like?

[liam821]

Have been using raybestos st43 and they are great for the track and lasts a long time. Squeals a ton, chews up rotors after 4-5 track days (tried blanks and cryo slotted). the brake dust really eats at rims if not removed.


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That's just all part of the fun. My previous pads, Wilwood BP-30s, did the same thing. They would destroy the rotors and pads in a few track days and you'd have to get the brake dust off if not it would destroy the rims.

[Estoril]

Performance Friction or go home.

I use PFC-11. PFC-01 is like crack in initial bite.

[SandeepM3]

Where do you guys buy your PFC pads for the brembo kits? 6 piston monoblock seems to be the hardest for me to find. Sounds like I need to switch up my hawk dct 60's

[bigjae46]

I believe the AP Racing BBKs use the same pads as the Stoptech ST60s. If yes, Stoptech SR34 pads. It’s a knock off Performance Friction PF01 but 1/3 less cost.

I’d also consider Pagid Yellows. I’m not a fan but plenty of people like them.


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[bigjae46]

I ran ST43's on my Brembo GTR kit on the street for about 7k miles. They ate my Type V rotor rings. Which is typical but they are almost smoked as well. So it depends on your driving style and how much of it.

ST43's might be my favorite pad compound that's NOT full race compound. Very easy to modulate, I found really easy to bed in, but decently hard on rotors (to be expected, especially if it gets cold near you) and decently priced.

All high temp brake pads (racing or track pads) are going to chew up rotors on the street. High temp brake pads are extremely abrasive when operating below their temp range.


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[bigjae46]

Where do you guys buy your PFC pads for the brembo kits? 6 piston monoblock seems to be the hardest for me to find. Sounds like I need to switch up my hawk st 60's

I run 4 piston calipers. It’s way cheaper and there’s not much benefit to using a 6 piston caliper.


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[liam821]

I believe the AP Racing BBKs use the same pads as the Stoptech ST60s. If yes, Stoptech SR34 pads. It’s a knock off Performance Friction PF01 but 1/3 less cost.

I’d also consider Pagid Yellows. I’m not a fan but plenty of people like them.


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The AP caliper does use the same pad as the Stoptech ST60 and Wilwood SL6R - Wilwood type 7420. Pretty much any company that makes brake pads makes one in the right size.

[eacmen]

All Hawk pads are trash, so I'd nix that idea.

No performance friction options?

Hard to beat the Hawk DTCs cost-wise when you swap em for free with FCP Euro.

They make alot of dust. But have good initial bite.

Did I mention free replacement?

😂

[bigjae46]

The AP caliper does use the same pad as the Stoptech ST60 and Wilwood SL6R - Wilwood type 7420. Pretty much any company that makes brake pads makes one in the right size.

Then I'd check out the SR34 pad. Not the longest lasting pad BUT it has excellent bite and release. Makes less than perfect trail braking work. The only pad with bite but easy to modulate. Not on/off or dull feeling.

[r4dr]

Where do you guys buy your PFC pads for the brembo kits? 6 piston monoblock seems to be the hardest for me to find. Sounds like I need to switch up my hawk st 60's

I'm guessing it's the 49mm annulus 6 piston monoblock kit?