E46 M3 values vs. E9X M3 values

[Tbonem3]

Ya no blowers, but I know the car has primary and sec cats so you can delete one set. I'd prob just do secondary delete (being in CA) and OEM muffler mod. Sounds so good, straight F1.

[Obioban]

Power is in the primary delete.

[Tbonem3]

Of course is it.

But do the post cat o2s reach behind the secondaries

[Duck360198]

The interior on E9x is kinda plastic-y but the stock seats are 20x better, more comfortable, and grippy than stock E46 M3 seats, which are one of the worst things (functionally) about the car.

The E46 m-texture seats are some of the best feeling seats to me and you don’t move at all in those. The cloth in the e9x’s feels like plastic and you move around just as much as the leather in my opinion. The anthracite cloth in the e46 isn’t that great though either. I prefer the e46 bolsters over e9x bolsters.

[maw1124]

People typically say this same thing about E36s. Assuming they had a nice one and not some clapped out pile of shit lmao.

I hear this too... but I'll ask this here just because I can never get a real answer on the street... how do people get around the US versions not being a "real" Motorsport division motor? Do they just ignore that datum or is it not real? To me it's like the AMG cars that didn't come from Affalterbach "one man, one engine" style (of which there are none, by the way) -- you know, badge only. If it's not a M engine, how does it appreciate in value? My E36M search stopped immediately with this datum.

maw

[SQ13]

I’ll be upset if I can’t drive my M3s 20 years from now

[Duck360198]

I hear this too... but I'll ask this here just because I can never get a real answer on the street... how do people get around the US versions not being a "real" Motorsport division motor? Do they just ignore that datum or is it not real? To me it's like the AMG cars that didn't come from Affalterbach "one man, one engine" style (of which there are none, by the way) -- you know, badge only. If it's not a M engine, how does it appreciate in value? My E36M search stopped immediately with this datum.

maw

How do you view the 1M? That’s a parts bin tuned engine. But it sure is skyrocketing in value.

[S3diment]

Ya no blowers, but I know the car has primary and sec cats so you can delete one set. I'd prob just do secondary delete (being in CA) and OEM muffler mod. Sounds so good, straight F1.

On the E92 you'll likely experience drone through that. I recommend getting this: https://ind-distribution.com/product...-x-pipe-street

I personally all stock except for the M-Performance exhaust. Not the loudest but it's incredibly sonorous and refined.

Or you could go full ARH: https://americanracingheaders.com/pr...13-full-system

[01SG]

how do people get around the US versions not being a "real" Motorsport division motor?

maw

It's still a great motor and significantly better than what the U.S. was getting in the 328. It also sounds fantastic and is relatively unbreakable. No, it's not very fast, but it has good character.

The whole car is a fantastic package. It has a few things over the E46 for sure. It's smaller and lighter which you feel all the time. It wraps around you much better. The steering is more direct. Cheaper to own. If I were in the market today, however, it would be hard to justify with the prices so close to a similar condition E46. When they cost less, they made tons of sense.

As for the e9x, I can't stand the interior. Absolutely tasteless and a complete defection from the class and traditional layout in the E46/39.

The E46 wins on styling on every account. The engines are more comparable; the last of the vaunted BMW six or the newer, higher revving, more powerful V8. The real killer is the weight. But I could be persuaded by a stripper, no sunroof, manual. I think price will all come down to spec and there will be lots of overlap, with the E90 being slightly more on average.

[oceansize]

Interesting data point on modified vs original is this E34 5 series that is highly highly modified and looks to be the highest priced e34 5 series sold on BAT. I was watching this thinking I might be able to get it for 40k. Wrong.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-bmw-540i-32/

[Tbonem3]

I’ll be upset if I can’t drive my M3s 20 years from now

The establishment is saying we're not going to be eating meat in 20 years

[Nate047]

I hear this too... but I'll ask this here just because I can never get a real answer on the street... how do people get around the US versions not being a "real" Motorsport division motor? Do they just ignore that datum or is it not real? To me it's like the AMG cars that didn't come from Affalterbach "one man, one engine" style (of which there are none, by the way) -- you know, badge only. If it's not a M engine, how does it appreciate in value? My E36M search stopped immediately with this datum.

maw

Mmmm I mean, you should drive one if you can, that's the only way to really get the point of the car. The E36 M3 really is more than the sum of its parts. The motor thing is such a dead horse at this point too. The US motors are more reliable and way cheaper if something goes wrong, and the cars are just moderately slower than the Euro cars in a straight line. On track you can keep it pinned most of the time because it's not extremely high power, so it's very rewarding and fun out there. And on the streets, it has low end torque and good usable power band. But honestly if appreciating in value plays a big part of your decision making process, there are probably other cars that you can make more money off.

[TexaZ3]

I hear this too... but I'll ask this here just because I can never get a real answer on the street... how do people get around the US versions not being a "real" Motorsport division motor? Do they just ignore that datum or is it not real? To me it's like the AMG cars that didn't come from Affalterbach "one man, one engine" style (of which there are none, by the way) -- you know, badge only. If it's not a M engine, how does it appreciate in value? My E36M search stopped immediately with this datum.

maw

How is it not a "real" M-engine? Aside from the marketing/development nonsense? Come on.
It has a S-index, unlike 1M motor, and its a real strong powerplant. Bulletproof too...I absolutely love S52!

[Tbonem3]

If the s50b32 didn't exist or was never put into an E36, no one would have said a thing.

Do they think having dual vanos makes it real?

[lastMleft]

I've owned or have driven extensively the majority of the M3 lineup, minus the E92 M3, but I can tell you although I daily drive my F82 M4 CS, the E46 M3 just pulls me back every time. Weekend drives, the E46 M3 is the go to car, any kind of spirited driving really. I love the F8x chassis and I've owned A '16 M4 Competition before this CS but the E46 M3 never gets old for me. It was my high school crush car and finally owning it, I can see what I missed out on. I'll end up selling my M4 CS soon, and I think for now I'll be content with the E46 M3. I'll plan on daily driving it, and grabbing a GT3 P-Car when one surfaces that I really like for the weekends.

E46 M3 so far for me in terms of pure enjoyment, trumps the rest of the lineup thus far.

Swapping out the M4 Comp for the E46 M3 really?? Are they that boring?