The Official Bring A Trailer (BaT) Thread

[maw1124]

Did you see the thread on rennlist talking about BAT and GT3 prices which strongly alludes to price manipulation amongst dealers? Interesting read, IMO there is no proof, but I wouldn't be shocked if that is occurring.

Knowing markets the way I do, I'm almost certain that's one level of game playing. Also the fact that we have zero visibility on "sales" not consummated. I can't track down the irrational bidders, other than (1) dealers bidding up their buddies' cars and (2) never actually parting with the money or title changing hands.

maw

EDIT... oceansize thanks for this... I completely missed the need for an intermediary because OEM police their dealers... all makes total sense now.

[02_lsb]

I think it's the photography.

no. Pretty sure it’s meth.

[Tbonem3]

Is this for real life? WTF just happened?

it’s a titanium silver with 125k. How?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/20...-m3-coupe-231/

I think it's the photography.

[simon_c]

I think the worst part is now someone of us (myself included) may be overvaluing our cars but maybe this is the new market?

[simon_c]

of course...I was saying it's around a $25k car, not $50k.

Somebody offers me $50k for mine and I probably take it.

It'll only really happen on a place like BaT though but I'm in the same boat. Really has me thinking about listing but honestly don't really want to deal with the BaT crowd and the whole process.

[0-60motorsports]

$25k at best. It's silver! If this wasn't on BaT and was posted on Facebook, it'd have 100+ comments saying that the seller is on crack and "does it come with extra $25k in the trunk?" It's total bullshit that Bringatrailer and Cars&Bids censors and hides any comments that aren't ass-kissing or boosting the auction.

this!

[tnord]

of course...I was saying it's around a $25k car, not $50k.

Somebody offers me $50k for mine and I probably take it.

[EthanolTurbo]

I don't mind silver, and can look past it especially for a slicktop and cinnamon. To me the spec is an overall positive, certainly better than PY!

Of course... but not for $50k+. WAY better cars than a silver E46 M3 for $50k.

[tnord]

$25k at best. It's silver! If this wasn't on BaT and was posted on Facebook, it'd have 100+ comments saying that the seller is on crack and "does it come with extra $25k in the trunk?" It's total bullshit that Bringatrailer and Cars&Bids censors and hides any comments that aren't ass-kissing or boosting the auction.

I don't mind silver, and can look past it especially for a slicktop and cinnamon. To me the spec is an overall positive, certainly better than PY!

[Slideways]

Did you see the thread on rennlist talking about BAT and GT3 prices which strongly alludes to price manipulation amongst dealers? Interesting read, IMO there is no proof, but I wouldn't be shocked if that is occurring.

That coupled with the inaccurate data of cars marked as sold even though the sale fell through.

[EthanolTurbo]

what do we think is the real value of this car? Looks like a decent condition car with a couple of good options, but I don't see specifics addressing big3. $25k?

$25k at best. It's silver! If this wasn't on BaT and was posted on Facebook, it'd have 100+ comments saying that the seller is on crack and "does it come with extra $25k in the trunk?" It's total bullshit that Bringatrailer and Cars&Bids censors and hides any comments that aren't ass-kissing or boosting the auction.

[simon_c]

So who’s going to list their car now 🙂

[EthanolTurbo]

I think people get tunnel vision on auction sites like BAT, things get out of hand quickly and they end up overspending by what, 20-30% or more? Then they just lean into the character of the rich guy who wanted it so bad he doesn't care about the price, to I guess look like a baller in front of the dumbest car audience on the internet. There's no chance that dude isn't experiencing buyer's remorse for that price right now unless he's actually a complete numbskull.

Seriously, those guys in the BaT comments sre absolute morons: "Well *I*was gonna pay $55k for this 100k+ miles car with nothing redeeming other than cinnamon and slicktop for 30k more than it's worth! Haha good show old chum, glad you beat me!"

They're like baboons with big, bright red asses except the ass has mutated and migrated to their brain cavity.

[tnord]

I think people get tunnel vision on auction sites like BAT, things get out of hand quickly and they end up overspending by what, 20-30% or more? Then they just lean into the character of the rich guy who wanted it so bad he doesn't care about the price, to I guess look like a baller in front of the dumbest car audience on the internet. There's no chance that dude isn't experiencing buyer's remorse for that price right now unless he's actually a complete numbskull.

what do we think is the real value of this car? Looks like a decent condition car with a couple of good options, but I don't see specifics addressing big3. $25k?

[oceansize]

Did you see the thread on rennlist talking about BAT and GT3 prices which strongly alludes to price manipulation amongst dealers? Interesting read, IMO there is no proof, but I wouldn't be shocked if that is occurring.