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    #16
    Originally posted by maw1124 View Post

    Or “if you’re going to change from OE at all, only SS V1 makes any sense whatsoever.”

    maw
    That's most certainly not correct.
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      #17
      Was the baseline tuned ?

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        #18
        Originally posted by digger View Post
        Was the baseline tuned ?
        Doesn't seem like it

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          #19
          Yeah not a fan of wheel "tune" added as a variable. Should still add to the dyno thread. 🤣

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            #20
            Originally posted by Tbonem3 View Post
            That's most certainly not correct.
            It could be. I can't see doing the work to install anything else TBH. But as of yet I'm not sold on headers as an idea at all on this car in my ownership, so there's that.

            maw

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              #21
              I see. So it was your opinion, based on your mechanical skillset? The way people write, myself included I'm sure, makes things look like pronouncements/factual statements.

              Spending $400 and half a day installing Megan headers, and doing a $400 canned Hassan tune will give you about 30hp over stock. Pretty damn "worth it," but that's my opinion.
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                #22
                I should have said "paying for the work to install"... I don't wrench. So if I'm doing headers, I'm doing only the best available, which seems like the SS V1 from all I've read, but that cost just doesn't justify the benefit for me. I'm sure that calculus is as varied as peoples' fingerprints.

                And it's not the labor part of that equation I care about.

                It has to be an improvement over stock, in every way not just horsepower, and enough of an improvement to justify the cost.

                maw
                Last edited by maw1124; 11-21-2022, 03:52 PM.

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                  #23


                  Originally posted by maw1124 View Post
                  It has to be an improvement over stock, in every way not just horsepower, and enough of an improvement to justify the cost.

                  maw
                  What other improvements do you fancy from a header? And if it's not the highest horsepower, then maybe V1 is not the best for you, and that's ok. Then the cost of the header can come down too to meet your improvement to cost ratio.

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                    #24
                    Right now, cams, headers, tune and exhaust, sway bars maybe 3:91 -- just don't want it to be the most expensive headache known to man. Already have tunes and sway bars are simple. The rest requires some real thought to stave off regret.

                    BTW, I've used Megan Racing products on other cars so I'm not as dismissive of them as some others. But I can't see the M3 headers for sale anymore (similar to how Borla exhausts just disappeared from the planet all of a sudden), making my job easier in some sense.

                    maw
                    Last edited by maw1124; 11-21-2022, 04:24 PM.

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                      #25
                      I have the Megan headers. They are swaintech coated, not sure that makes a difference. I made 317whp on a dynojet with the Megans, BW exhaust, Injen intake and a canned tune...I think it was an Evolve tune. I have a PCS tune now. Do it once so if you're getting cams and all of the other bolt on stuff, might as well get the SSV1s.

                      Just from looking at Dynos, I think SS V1s add a good amount of power. You get more when you install cams, CSL intake, and even bored ITBs. I remember seeing someone port matching the intake and exhaust ports. stash1 can tell you more and add a lot more data and knowledge on this than me.

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                        #26
                        It’s pretty rare to see scientific tests on this stuff

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by bigjae46 View Post
                          I have the Megan headers. They are swaintech coated, not sure that makes a difference. I made 317whp on a dynojet with the Megans, BW exhaust, Injen intake and a canned tune...I think it was an Evolve tune. I have a PCS tune now. Do it once so if you're getting cams and all of the other bolt on stuff, might as well get the SSV1s.

                          Just from looking at Dynos, I think SS V1s add a good amount of power. You get more when you install cams, CSL intake, and even bored ITBs. I remember seeing someone port matching the intake and exhaust ports. stash1 can tell you more and add a lot more data and knowledge on this than me.
                          I'm Schrick 288/280'd with a built head, Dinan ITBs and a CSL intake. With the SSV1's I dropped no where. Car is much easier to drive on the street and actually is quiet at low rpms but screams up top.

                          I have had JVT headers on my car for 8 years. The SSV1's are worth their price even though it is money and the car is still "slow" lol
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                            #28
                            I do miss my euro headers/sec. 1 for the sound honesty vs. the V1's. Sure as shit wish I wouldn't have sold that stuff off.

                            I also wish I would have stopped chasing power and spent more on others mods because one can do every single NA mod and these cars are still pretty slow as Sharocks was saying.

                            That said I'll likely still chase more NA power on the car, just because.
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                              #29
                              I'd like to see a comparison with the ARH headers. I've been strongly considering them for the sound alone.

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Sharocks View Post

                                I'm Schrick 288/280'd with a built head, Dinan ITBs and a CSL intake. With the SSV1's I dropped no where. Car is much easier to drive on the street and actually is quiet at low rpms but screams up top.

                                I have had JVT headers on my car for 8 years. The SSV1's are worth their price even though it is money and the car is still "slow" lol
                                Slow compared to what though? At my mod level 92s unless supercharged are getting walked. But granted i care more about track performance.

                                Slow is definitely relative, can't wait for cams and etc, my body is ready.
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