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    Sway Bar recommendation

    Hey everyone I'm looking for a sway bar recommendation, What size would you guys recommend?
    I've currently refreshed the entire suspension and I'm currently on:
    Ohlins R&T
    Vorshlag Camber plates 2.5 inch
    Bimmerworld F&R solid brass caliper bushings
    Front strut tower reinforcement
    Meyle HD sway b ar endlinks
    New control arms
    Turner monoball front control arm bushing
    New tie rods and tie rod ends
    Rogue engineering rear shock mount and spring perch reinforcement
    Rogue engineering adjustable rear control arms
    New OEM trans and motor mounts
    New flex disc guibo
    Powerflex F&R sway bar bushings (stock size)
    AKG Diff and Subframe bushings 95D
    New OEM rear Upper & Lower outer bushing
    New OEM upper inner bushing

    Currently track the car on 18x10 et25. 275mm square

    Current Pace
    LV Outside Road Course 2:05
    Streets of Willow 1:27
    Big Willow 1:50 still learning lol
    Kuhmo Ecsta V730 are what I use

    Thanks in advance!

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    FRC of ~70 is neutral.

    2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
    2012 LMB/Black 128i
    2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan

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      #3
      I don't track my car, but I like the Hotchkis bars for our cars.

      They're hollow, so you lose some weight too.

      I don't think there's a huge difference in swaybars, really any should be fine. You'll need to figure out what you want out of the car.

      Usually, swaybars are used to dial in or out understeer.
      2004 Dinan S3-R M3
      2023 X3M Competition

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        #4
        On my fulltime track car I am running this Hotchkis setup with SPL links.

        Hotchkis Sport Swaybar Upgrade Set - BMW E46 M3 (2001-2006) (bimmerworld.com)

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          #5
          Originally posted by Obioban View Post
          nevermind
          Last edited by D-O; 04-05-2024, 12:04 PM.
          Old, not obsolete.

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            #6
            Ground control front which is infinitely adjustable. I'll never allow any hotchkis products on my cars again after having their front swaybar rip two Mounts out of my ZHP. I finally realized their bushings were clamping down on the bar too much and not allowing it to move freely enough even though it was greased. Glad other love them but I hate them

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              #7
              That wasn't Hotchkis's fault.

              It's a known issue on this chassis.

              Heavy duty E46 front sway bar reinforcement kit from MSW.  The front sway bar (anti-roll bar) mounts on the E46 chassis are an often overlooked weak point.  Don't let yours fail by not reinforcing them.
              2004 Dinan S3-R M3
              2023 X3M Competition

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                #8
                Originally posted by Wernd View Post
                Ground control front which is infinitely adjustable. I'll never allow any hotchkis products on my cars again after having their front swaybar rip two Mounts out of my ZHP. I finally realized their bushings were clamping down on the bar too much and not allowing it to move freely enough even though it was greased. Glad other love them but I hate them
                Ground control tore out of mine

                2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
                2012 LMB/Black 128i
                2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Obioban View Post

                  Ground control tore out of mine
                  LOL! God so now I have to take it out!?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by S54330Ci View Post
                    On my fulltime track car I am running this Hotchkis setup with SPL links.

                    Hotchkis Sport Swaybar Upgrade Set - BMW E46 M3 (2001-2006) (bimmerworld.com)
                    Question, how do you feel about the SPL links vs BimmerWorld? They look to be the same materials and really similar design but the cost is not aligned.
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                    '99 M3, Hellrot/Sand Beige, slicktop
                    '01 M3, Imola/black

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nate047 View Post

                      Question, how do you feel about the SPL links vs BimmerWorld? They look to be the same materials and really similar design but the cost is not aligned.
                      SPL links appear to be more robust compared to BW.

                      Side note: If you're running beefy front sway bars, please do yourself a favor an reinforce the mounting points. You might as well reinforce the entire front subframe while you're at it.

                      2005 E46 ///M3 Interlagos Blue

                      BBS - Recaro - JRZ - PFC - Dixis Spirit - Supersprint - Haimus - Vorshlag - RKP - YFCM - Ground Control - DMG Autosport - Diffsonline - Autosolutions - ​Koyo - Mile End Composites - GC

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Wernd View Post

                        LOL! God so now I have to take it out!?
                        Just do the reinforcement.

                        2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
                        2012 LMB/Black 128i
                        2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Obioban View Post

                          Just do the reinforcement.
                          I did do the reinforcement, I also don't use the bar as much in the M3 like I do in the ZHP, I let the coilovers do more of the work

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nate047 View Post

                            Question, how do you feel about the SPL links vs BimmerWorld? They look to be the same materials and really similar design but the cost is not aligned.
                            No experience with the BW product, lots of experience with SPL products, hence my decision to go with SPL.

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                              #15
                              What are you trying to accomplish with the car by asking what size bar people recommend.... Just because you are refreshing all suspension components doesn't mean you need a new bar in there .

                              Are you staying with out of the box Ohlins R&T spring rates?

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