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Do you have the specs on the OEM MAP sensor o-ring? If the new Bosch sensor needs a thicker o-ring to seal correctly in the OEM air rail, where can we source these?Originally posted by NZ_M3 View Post
This is what I do and works perfect 👍 you don’t actually need to shave that much off we are talking a fraction really. Takes a whole minute to do.2005 BMW M3 ZCP Black/Black - HTE Tuning | Kassel CSL DME | 280/272 Schrick Cams+P54 Followers | Dinan TBs | Bosch 550cc | Radium Fuel System | Karbonious CSL Airbox+OE Snorkel | SS V1 Stepped+Catted Sec 1+Resonated Twin Pipe+Race | 3.91, 3 stage clutch | FCM 336/600 | Vorshlag Camber Plates, RSM | Rogue ASP | AKG FCABs, SFBs | TMS Front Sway, Camber Arms, Monoball RTABs, Pullies | Mason Race Strut + X-Brace | AS 30% SSK | SPAL | Redish Plates | VAC Exhaust Hub | WPC Rod Bearings
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This is if you have an OE CSL air rail only? I want to do that method but it seems those are not readily available. I should have bought one months ago when they were in stock.Originally posted by NZ_M3 View Post
This is what I do and works perfect 👍 you don’t actually need to shave that much off we are talking a fraction really. Takes a whole minute to do.
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The airbox isn't under vacuum. You need to measure the pressure between the throttle bodies and the cylinder head. They decided taking the stock air rail and brazing on a map flange is the way to go.Originally posted by ATB88 View PostJust a thought: why didn't BMW just have the MAP sensor mount to the airbox itself? Like the IAT? Seems like that should have been the best solution. Then no need to design and produce a new air rail? Is there a reason why this would have given worse or less accurate readings?
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Bringing life back to this thread to get some clarity, advice and input from others that went with the CSL air line route.
My current parts list specific to the MAP sensor conversion/installation includes:
- OEM CSL air rail 13417833597
- Bosch MAP sensor 0261230101
- OEM harness pigtail adapter 83300413582
- Viton 8mm ID x3mm O-ring
I'm curious what ECU programming route other have taken for the MAP sensor. Kassel Performance appears to be a popular and solid choice.
I was also hoping to get some suggestions on the cleanest and simplest option to wire the MAP sensor to the DME. From what I got out of the information posted by NZ_M3 in the cslresgister forum, with the CSL air line and Bosch sensor, the cleanest and simplest way to do it is use the BMW plug harness pigtail connector, part# 83300413582, and run that from the senor to the DME. Is that correct? Are there any other parts or modifications required? I haven't found any other posts where that's been discussed or performed which makes me reluctant to attempt it. It appears to be an OEM plug-n-play solution which screams 'no-brainer' to me, but maybe I'm missing something.
Lastly, for the installation location of the IAT sensor in this scenario, is heat-soaking something that needs will still need to be addressed? My current plan is to install it in the designated slot on the airbox. I'll be using the OEM sensor, part# 13621739510.
I chose not to include the snorkel as part of my setup because I don't have the CSL bumper so I didn't see the value in it.
Looking forward to some good responses that will help me and others with their pending projects. Feel free to provide other relevant tips and tricks gained through your experiences. Thanks
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I'm on the cusp of doing this and would like to give it a good bump.Originally posted by simplem3 View PostBringing life back to this thread to get some clarity, advice and input from others that went with the CSL air line route.
My current parts list specific to the MAP sensor conversion/installation includes:
- OEM CSL air rail 13417833597
- Bosch MAP sensor 0261230101
- OEM harness pigtail adapter 83300413582
- Viton 8mm ID x3mm O-ring
I'm curious what ECU programming route other have taken for the MAP sensor. Kassel Performance appears to be a popular and solid choice.
I was also hoping to get some suggestions on the cleanest and simplest option to wire the MAP sensor to the DME. From what I got out of the information posted by NZ_M3 in the cslresgister forum, with the CSL air line and Bosch sensor, the cleanest and simplest way to do it is use the BMW plug harness pigtail connector, part# 83300413582, and run that from the senor to the DME. Is that correct? Are there any other parts or modifications required? I haven't found any other posts where that's been discussed or performed which makes me reluctant to attempt it. It appears to be an OEM plug-n-play solution which screams 'no-brainer' to me, but maybe I'm missing something.
Lastly, for the installation location of the IAT sensor in this scenario, is heat-soaking something that needs will still need to be addressed? My current plan is to install it in the designated slot on the airbox. I'll be using the OEM sensor, part# 13621739510.
I chose not to include the snorkel as part of my setup because I don't have the CSL bumper so I didn't see the value in it.
Looking forward to some good responses that will help me and others with their pending projects. Feel free to provide other relevant tips and tricks gained through your experiences. Thanks
Is the Kassel a solid solution or is OEM the best way to go?
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FYI if you're going the CSL air rail route I've designed a 3D printed adapter to help the Bosch '101 sensor fit better. On mobile at the moment but if you check out the CAD parts sticky you'll find it.Originally posted by beyondm3 View Post
I'm on the cusp of doing this and would like to give it a good bump.
Is the Kassel a solid solution or is OEM the best way to go?
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