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    After getting a flat about a year ago, I was driving on a one-way construction path surrounded by barriers which was about a mile long, when all of a sudden I notice my car suddenly sinks to the left, and the red TPMS comes on at once. I've been on this road a few times this month but given its condition I had a feeling on what was wrong... I pull over and my tire is already a goner. I'm currently running on a spare front tire I had so obviously means not much time, any chance I can get this patched? The sidewall damage is somewhat extensive, tread is still at 7/32" so I'm hoping it's even remotely possible to get it patched and save a couple hundred bucks... and if not, looks like I'll just buy new rims to replace my peeling ones.

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    Sidewall damage = new tire. Most (read: reputable) places won't repair a tire with sidewall damage.
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      #3
      Agreed with replacing it. If it were only the puncture, I think it would have been OK to plug but the sidewall damage makes it a safer bet to replace it.
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        #4
        Yeah the area that puncture is in makes it somewhat iffy to patch. Would recommend a new tire, maybe even a pair of new tires if the one on the other side is worn. The TPMS system on this car hates it when the tires are mismatched from side to side.
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          #5
          Just take it to America's Tire. They'll have a pretty credible verdict for you.

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            #6
            Thanks for the quick replies. The other tire is at 7/32" tread, basically got a ton of life left in it, especially for how I drive... OK to just purchase another of the same set? Fronts are at 4/32" tread but I haven't had an issue with it, of course until I'm running on a flat.
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              #7
              Hertz is not reputable and they would've replaced it ​​​​​​. Patching that will eventually cause a leak just because it still flexes there. The outside appears flat but the inside is quite curved and moves with the sidewall. Techs would repair them because they'd only want to do one tire and they'd always leak.
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                #8
                Just based on the location of the puncture - this is fine, it can be patched from the inside with a mushroom, and will be just fine. The tire itself just looks old though, I can see some dry rot already starting - how old is that tire? If more than 6 years old - replace even if it still has plenty of thread. The rubber compounds are just starting to disintegrate.
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TexaZ3 View Post
                  Just based on the location of the puncture - this is fine, it can be patched from the inside with a mushroom, and will be just fine. The tire itself just looks old though, I can see some dry rot already starting - how old is that tire? If more than 6 years old - replace even if it still has plenty of thread. The rubber compounds are just starting to disintegrate.
                  When it's outside the first line of tread, patches don't stay. They leak. You can't just look at the outside of the tire, you have to take it off and look inside to see what I'm talking about. I know we want to judge things like this by the surface but the mushroom patches need a mostly flat surface. I thought the same thing until someone with many more years of experience showed me why. Do it right once or do it twice
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                    #10
                    I know I am old, but did not think I was blind as well, I see the metal object in pic's 2 and 4 on the outer tread, easily repairable done it many times over the last 40 years, but I don't see any sidewall damage in pics 1 and 3.

                    If there is a nail on the road, my wife will find it, hit it, and puncture a tire, as would my daughters. I've plugged so many tires over the last 40 years and have had very few issues. Would I track a plug, prob not, but for everyday driving, I've had positive results on all tread area's of the tire. On the sidewall, that's a new tire though, but I don't see any sidewall damage.
                    Last edited by Flat-Six; 06-04-2020, 11:48 AM.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by TexaZ3 View Post
                      Just based on the location of the puncture - this is fine, it can be patched from the inside with a mushroom, and will be just fine. The tire itself just looks old though, I can see some dry rot already starting - how old is that tire? If more than 6 years old - replace even if it still has plenty of thread. The rubber compounds are just starting to disintegrate.
                      The tire says "2317" so 23rd week of 2017, I had it replaced by a mobile tire shop in Feb 2018. I've only driven the car about 8k miles on these tires.
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Flat-Six View Post
                        I know I am old, but did not think I was blind as well, I see the metal object in pic's 2 and 4 on the outer tread, easily repairable done it many times over the last 40 years, but I don't see any sidewall damage in pics 1 and 3.

                        If there is a nail on the road, my wife will find it, hit it, and puncture a tire, as would my daughters. I've plugged so many tires over the last 40 years and have had very few issues. Would I track a plug, prob not, but for everyday driving, I've had positive results on all tread area's of the tire. On the sidewall, that's a new tire though, but I don't see any sidewall damage.
                        Idk if it's sidewall damage, but because I was driving on the tire for a bit after it was flat because I was stuck in a construction zone, it rubbed off the lettering throughout the tire, why you can't see any of the branding anymore. I don't see any of the classic bulging or sidewall damage, but don't know if that's reason enough to get a new one.
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by OEMaddict View Post

                          Idk if it's sidewall damage, but because I was driving on the tire for a bit after it was flat because I was stuck in a construction zone, it rubbed off the lettering throughout the tire, why you can't see any of the branding anymore. I don't see any of the classic bulging or sidewall damage, but don't know if that's reason enough to get a new one.
                          Yeah, I can't see that, but if you drove for a bit with a flat tire, you prob damaged the internal structure of the sidewall and I'd replace, especially on a performance car. Now If it was a Ford Pinto, going back and forth to work, I'd plug it and let it go. But I've plugged so many tires, (first job was at a gas station back in the 70's), and rarely had a problem. But with your tire, driven flat, it's a gamble. You could plug it and drive, while you order new tires, knowing you need to take it easy.....

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