New Video By Vince !

[VinceSE2]

Most thorough and detailed explaination of the original design flaws, failure points and rationale of the Vincebar solution. Thank you sir. It has elevated my "mechanical sympathy" for the rare occasion I drive my (non reinforced) e46 M3 hard.
Without doubt this is the solution that every e46 owner should be considering to safeguard the longevity of the platform. Look forward to website and opportunity to buy.


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Thank you very much! 🙏
It's much appreciated.

I will be following up this video with a similar one for the front mounts and the Front gusset cups. Stay tuned 😉

Also, I still take orders via email and PayPal invoices. Just as I've done for several years.
And there's a lot of information on Facebook and YouTube.

The website will make it easier to share and present information.
And the objective with the web shop is to make it easier to purchase the products.


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[cobra]

Vince, great job with your explanation and your product that properly addresses this. To me it seems like the only true option for retaining an OEM vehicle appearance and truly bullet-proofing the chassis.

Question: If I have no signs of failure and am generally a smooth/gentle driver, does it make sense to do this job preventively or wait until something happens?

Also - what about the later models (04+?) that had this plastic component inside the racp section. Does this change the failure rate or mode?

[VinceSE2]

Vince, great job with your explanation and your product that properly addresses this. To me it seems like the only true option for retaining an OEM vehicle appearance and truly bullet-proofing the chassis.

Question: If I have no signs of failure and am generally a smooth/gentle driver, does it make sense to do this job preventively or wait until something happens?

Also - what about the later models (04+?) that had this plastic component inside the racp section. Does this change the failure rate or mode?

Thank you very much 🙏

YES, preventively addressing it will always be much less costly than waiting for failure signs.
By the time you see failure signs there could be a lot more to repair than you would first expect.
And the repairing part of the job can get costly.


The plastic component does nothing for the structural integrity of the RACP.
As far as I understand BMW added it to help contain the structural foam/structural resin where they intended it to be.

But as I believe just about everyone knows at this point the foam/structural resin was a quick and cheap fix to get out of the class action law suite.

The foam/structural resin at best only addresses hotspot #1 (the first hairline crack).
And as shown in the video that doesn't stop the RACP breaking up and coming loose from the rest of the body.





While the VinceBar takes the load off of the RACP.




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[Casa de Mesa]

cobra For what it's worth, I'm doing mine preventatively. No cracks, already have plates in the car, I drive very smooth (I have mechanical sympathy), though I do romp on it occasionally. Although, I suffered wheel hop for years (that went away when I dropped a bunch of weight from it, ironically - so I think it was shock valving). So after watching Vince's video, I decided enough is enough.

[stephen]

Have you noticed any difference in failure type/rate on sedans without split-folding rear seats? @VinceSE2

[0-60motorsports]

cobra For what it's worth, I'm doing mine preventatively. No cracks, already have plates in the car, I drive very smooth (I have mechanical sympathy), though I do romp on it occasionally. Although, I suffered wheel hop for years (that went away when I dropped a bunch of weight from it, ironically - so I think it was shock valving). So after watching Vince's video, I decided enough is enough.

Yeah i have plates too and would love to finally do the Vincebar and gussets on my car (have had it done for others). Unfortunately i had to drop out of the last GB.

[ChapterM3]

Just watched the whole video, that was fantastic, thank you Vince for making such an informative video! My throttle input has already changed driving my car after watching the video haha.

Although the last owner of my car installed the Turner Motorsport reinforcement plate kit in 2017 I’m now worried there are cracks in other areas based on your video. I’ll have to check it next time the car is in the air and or take my trunk apart. Not sure you can answer this but any idea how long these version 1 plate kits will last? I have photos of the car before and after the install but don’t want to high jack your thread with them

I’m sure I’m not the only one now with a sinking feeling in their stomach wondering what they might find if they actually look at their rear subframe plates after seeing your video. I thought this was a big check mark of done, now I’m not so sure!

[kwan_1104]

Thanks Vince for the detailed breakdown of the issue and fix! Look forward to your second video addressing the front side.

I already have an x-brace that connect the rear subframe mount to the strut towers.
Do you think the brace by itself is sufficient as it's transferring the load the strut towers already. Or will I still need the vincebar which ties the entire floor to the framerail?

Also, by limiting the movement on the rear end, can someone get away without doing the front gusset cups?

[Slideways]

Just watched the whole video, that was fantastic, thank you Vince for making such an informative video! My throttle input has already changed driving my car after watching the video haha.

Although the last owner of my car installed the Turner Motorsport reinforcement plate kit in 2017 I’m now worried there are cracks in other areas based on your video. I’ll have to check it next time the car is in the air and or take my trunk apart. Not sure you can answer this but any idea how long these version 1 plate kits will last? I have photos of the car before and after the install but don’t want to high jack your thread with them

I’m sure I’m not the only one now with a sinking feeling in their stomach wondering what they might find if they actually look at their rear subframe plates after seeing your video. I thought this was a big check mark of done, now I’m not so sure!

The car does not need to be on a lift to check the rear drivers arch for the seam sealer cracking and the popped spot welds on the backside. That is where the panels are going to want to separate after the plates have been welded in. As long as the floor has not caved in, you usually have some time to address the topside if it is a weekend/DD car. On a HPDE/track car, you'll want to take care of this immediately.

[theOracle]

After watching this video I’m grateful the previous owner of my car did this in addition to the common plates under the RACP. I’d be interested in driving 2 cars back to back. Mine with the full kit and one without any reinforcement. Stiffness and power delivery would have to be noticeable.

[cobra]

After watching this video I’m grateful the previous owner of my car did this in addition to the common plates under the RACP. I’d be interested in driving 2 cars back to back. Mine with the full kit and one without any reinforcement. Stiffness and power delivery would have to be noticeable.

That is a really clean job!