Review: Cobra Nogaro seats (uniquely street friendly fixed back bucket seat)

[repoman89]

My technique for reinstalling the seats is to loosen the outside two bracket to seat bolts enough so that the rails can line up easily. Then torque them to the floor and retighten the seat bolts after.

I’ve had my brackets for a few years now so it’s not a recent thing, quality has been shit for a while. Every BK part I’ve bought (three now) has either required a grinder or a machinist. Wish there was any competition at all.

[Cubieman]

My driver side is on power slider and I had to also crowbar it to get the rear bolts into the floor...

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How far were your rear seat rails holes off? On mine if one side is lined up the other is off the entire width of the hole in the floor.

My theory is that the inboard bracket (at least mine) sit up at an angle, once installed to seat this pushes the rails out at an angle causing the fitment issue, interesting the front is fine and the back isn't.

I'm about to take those fucking brackets, vise them up and bend them so they don't kick out so much.

Sure wish I had metal fab equipment/skills right about now.

[mrgizmo04]

I ordered some E30 switchs, going to try the power sliders to see if fitment is any better..what a bummer.

My driver side is on power slider and I had to also crowbar it to get the rear bolts into the floor...

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[Cubieman]

I am also having some pretty bad fitment issues on manual sliders, I had to cut away part of the slider to even get the bracket on the inboard rail.

Once installed I can get the front studs through the slider holes but the rears are way off, the distance between the mounting points on the rear is 1/2" wider than the fronts, same issue as mrgizmo04is having.

I can persuade the bolts into place but it's seems like way to much force/tension to have just built up on the seats all the time, don't want to crack them etc.

I ordered some E30 switchs, going to try the power sliders to see if fitment is any better..what a bummer.

[Casa de Mesa]

Where was your interference at with the power sliders?

Yea, it still would interfere, the bracket at an angle is the inboard side so it doesn't require the spacer according to the instructions.

Half tempted to try and see how they fit on my factory power sliders, but I went to a lot of work to get/clean/paint these manual sliders, I just hope they can send me something that works.

Don't want to have to modify the bracket or the rails either, shouldn't have to, feels like I bought a chinese ebay kit which is an unfortunate thing to say about BK stuff.

Pics below, not great but it interferes with the crossover bracket that holds the "driveshaft" for the gears on the non motor side seat rail.

The spacer is in the 2nd pic. Spacer is at the front of the seat rails (closer to the front of the car).

[Cubieman]

If you put a 1/4" spacer there, even just to mock it up, would the BK mount interfere with that spring detent box? I'm using power sliders but they interfered with the outboard seat rails without that spacer. Or was it inboard? Regardless, there was interference without the spacer.

Where was your interference at with the power sliders?

Yea, it still would interfere, the bracket at an angle is the inboard side so it doesn't require the spacer according to the instructions.

Half tempted to try and see how they fit on my factory power sliders, but I went to a lot of work to get/clean/paint these manual sliders, I just hope they can send me something that works.

Don't want to have to modify the bracket or the rails either, shouldn't have to, feels like I bought a chinese ebay kit which is an unfortunate thing to say about BK stuff.

[Casa de Mesa]

Thanks, may do washers to mock it up, inboard the brackets being at an angle really isn't great, shouldn't have to grind material from the rails and/or brackets to make that work.

Calling BK today in regards to all of this.

If you put a 1/4" spacer there, even just to mock it up, would the BK mount interfere with that spring detent box? I'm using power sliders but they interfered with the outboard seat rails without that spacer. Or was it inboard? Regardless, there was interference without the spacer.

[Cubieman]

I have these with my kit. I'll try to get over to the car and measure them this week. I want to say they are about 1/4" thick, maybe 3/8". Probably closer to 0.25".

You could get some spacers from a hardware store and roll with them temporarily. It's literally just a painted/powder coated chunk of flat steel - they aren't tapered or otherwise special in any way.

Thanks, may do washers to mock it up, inboard the brackets being at an angle really isn't great, shouldn't have to grind material from the rails and/or brackets to make that work.

Calling BK today in regards to all of this.

[Casa de Mesa]

Does anybody happen to have a spare set of the black spacers for the outboard rail that goes between the rail/bracket?

My kit didn't come with them, have emailed and will call ECS about this as I can't proceed without them.

I have these with my kit. I'll try to get over to the car and measure them this week. I want to say they are about 1/4" thick, maybe 3/8". Probably closer to 0.25".

You could get some spacers from a hardware store and roll with them temporarily. It's literally just a painted/powder coated chunk of flat steel - they aren't tapered or otherwise special in any way.

[Obioban]

Man, seems like quality has gotten worse. Sad.

[Cubieman]

Can't really help you but I can say that the brackets I got also did not include the spacers. I did the substrap bar so the missing pieces didn't affect my install, but honestly kinda ridiculous that they were missing in the first place.

Yeah, the BK stuff worked alright on the GT3 Nogaro installation, but I'm already running into multiple issues on the M3, one being the inboard rail bracket isn't standing up straight, it's at a decent angle.

Looks like the reason is it's touching the slider "spring/detent box", I will likely have to clearance this somehow.

[heinzboehmer]

Does anybody happen to have a spare set of the black spacers for the outboard rail that goes between the rail/bracket?

My kit didn't come with them, have emailed and will call ECS about this as I can't proceed without them.

Can't really help you but I can say that the brackets I got also did not include the spacers. I did the substrap bar so the missing pieces didn't affect my install, but honestly kinda ridiculous that they were missing in the first place.

[Cubieman]

Does anybody happen to have a spare set of the black spacers for the outboard rail that goes between the rail/bracket?

My kit didn't come with them, have emailed and will call ECS about this as I can't proceed without them.

[Bry5on]

CAD your own brackets! You can start with mine, the spacing of the factory mounting studs on the rails is correct.. https://cad.onshape.com/documents/c4...d0507e4eaa81d3

[Thoglan]

R2222 is not correct. It is for the FIA Pole Positions, not the ABE version
What you need is the R9220. With the R9220, the holes will line up when shimmed correctly.
I'm speaking from experience, having used both (and why I have a set of the R9222 for sale).

Hm you might be right... The wider mounts would fix the problem. ABE mounting points are 430mm wide so the upper limit of the R9222 which I had assumed meant the R9222 was designed around the ABE and could be shimmed down for smaller seats. And they do technically fit but not well.

Regardless I'm not about to buy another set of BK brackets, the quality is pretty meh. I might order a set of the German ones and see what they are like in comparison (not to mention cheaper).