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    #46
    Update: After the valve adjustment I turned over the engine again twice to TDC and the alignment pin went in like butter this time 🤨

    Buttoned everything up, started the car, and the idle has hesitation.

    I'm getting these codes on INPA:
    - 184 EVANOS regulation
    No pressure, error present, static error
    - 213 Misfire of multiple cyl. Exhaust
    - Misfire codes for each individual cylinder

    Assuming the misfire codes are caused by the VANOS issue. Any ideas on what that code means exactly?

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      #47
      Originally posted by JokerElite View Post
      Update: After the valve adjustment I turned over the engine again twice to TDC and the alignment pin went in like butter this time 🤨

      Buttoned everything up, started the car, and the idle has hesitation.

      I'm getting these codes on INPA:
      - 184 EVANOS regulation
      No pressure, error present, static error
      - 213 Misfire of multiple cyl. Exhaust
      - Misfire codes for each individual cylinder

      Assuming the misfire codes are caused by the VANOS issue. Any ideas on what that code means exactly?
      Did you reset VANOS adaptations before first start?

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        #48
        Originally posted by eacmen View Post

        Did you reset VANOS adaptations before first start?
        Negative. What do I use to do this? DIS?

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          #49
          Originally posted by JokerElite View Post

          Negative. What do I use to do this? DIS?
          I think INPA but don’t hold me to it. Its been a while.

          Reset VANOS and throttle adaptations. Clear all codes and start it again.

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            #50
            The multiple misfire happend to me and I don't believe is anything to worry about, clear it and I'll bet it won't come back.

            A vanos test via DIS or ISTA isn't a bad idea regardless.
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              #51
              Originally posted by eacmen View Post

              I think INPA but don’t hold me to it. Its been a while.

              Reset VANOS and throttle adaptations. Clear all codes and start it again.
              You’re a lifesaver. It’s smooth again. Thank you for all your help 👍🏼

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                #52
                Originally posted by JokerElite View Post

                You’re a lifesaver. It’s smooth again. Thank you for all your help 👍🏼
                Awesome! Congrats!

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by JokerElite View Post
                  Reporting back, I eventually reinstalled the VANOS unit and tightened the top 4 intake and exhaust hub bolts. I checked the timing right after and the dowel inserted into each camshaft smoothly. Then I rotated the crank once to TDC (to access remaining bolts) and performed a timing test. I noticed the dowel required slight pressure to fit into the exhaust camshaft hole and would line up with the intake camshaft hole but would not go in. After tightening the remaining bolts, I rotated the crank once more to TDC (cams back at ~45°) and performed another test and the dowel goes into both holes with slight pressure.

                  Is this fine?

                  If so, can I back out the VANOS unit a little to slip in the new gasket or would this ruin timing?
                  Glad you got it situated. When I was doing my rebuild I was having the same issue where I would adjust one of my cams(i think the intake cam) and every time after spinning the motor over the cam would drift ever so slightly out of place. I ended up actually moving it the same distance in the opposite direction the next time I adjusted the cam position. Turned the motor over several times and the pin dropped in rather smoothly, no mis fires or codes on first start!

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by Chanman1029 View Post

                    Glad you got it situated. When I was doing my rebuild I was having the same issue where I would adjust one of my cams(i think the intake cam) and every time after spinning the motor over the cam would drift ever so slightly out of place. I ended up actually moving it the same distance in the opposite direction the next time I adjusted the cam position. Turned the motor over several times and the pin dropped in rather smoothly, no mis fires or codes on first start!
                    Thanks for the tip. Following the Beisan instructions, I encountered this same issue. I found the intake cam position would move slightly after just tightening intake hub bolts. Without even rotating the motor, just rocking the cam back and forth after tightening the hub bolts, I saw that intake cam would be slightly off. I noticed it was off by the same about each time I aligned the cam with the tool, so I just advanced it slightly before tightening the intake hub. Now the intake cam is timed properly.
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                      #55
                      After setting the cams to the bridge pin with crank at TDC compression, there is a chance that the chain slack happened when loosening the hubs bolts, and this is the reason for the cams do not line up to the bridge pin on the final check. The easy way to compensate for chain slack is to set the crack 1mm or 2mm before TDC at the beginning of the procedure.

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