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    #31
    Found this ACL 2020 brochure where they partnered with Calico Coatings for their bearings. On their Engine application list they have many different engines except S54 where I presume that VAC had made an exclusive deal for S54 engines?


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      #32
      Originally posted by GeorgeBeirut View Post
      Found this ACL 2020 brochure where they partnered with Calico Coatings for their bearings. On their Engine application list they have many different engines except S54 where I presume that VAC had made an exclusive deal for S54 engines?

      On the box it did mention that the ACL bearing are still coated so maybe it's just not the CT-1 coating that VAC has them doing.
      This is my Unbuild Journal and why we need an oil thread
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      "Do it right once or do it twice"

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        #33
        Originally posted by Richtings View Post
        I went with ACL because Lang Racing and Rogue Engineering both recommended them
        ^^^ This is exactly why I chose ACL too.

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          #34
          Originally posted by GeorgeBeirut View Post
          Found this ACL 2020 brochure where they partnered with Calico Coatings for their bearings. On their Engine application list they have many different engines except S54 where I presume that VAC had made an exclusive deal for S54 engines?

          Was it ever confirmed that VAC was just selling coated ACL bearings and charging close to $500 for them?

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            #35
            They’re coated with something, that’s for sure. The ones I bought in 2022 were. They do not look like the VAC coating, however.

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              #36
              Originally posted by tlow98 View Post
              They're coated with something, that's for sure. The ones I bought in 2022 were. They do not look like the VAC coating, however.

              ACL doesn't use a flash coating with the standard race, which is why they aren't that consistent coloration. I see they do have a deal with Calico on other shells, but not for this app.


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                #37
                Originally posted by JamesSJ1 View Post

                ^^^ This is exactly why I chose ACL too.
                Same


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                  #38
                  I went with OE on both my S54s, my S85, and shortly my S62.

                  OE bolts all around, too-- better clamping force, more circular bore, and cheaper than ARP makes that an easy decision.

                  ... and FCP means next time they'll be free.

                  2005 IR/IR M3 Coupe
                  2012 LMB/Black 128i
                  2008 Black/Black M5 Sedan

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                    #39
                    The last of the big three is for me to complete my rod bearings. I'm almost 100% certain I can do it, but I'm jittery as it'll be my first time and it's a pretty serious engine component. Anyway, I inquired with a shop and they insisted on only installing OEM bearings so I ended up ordering a set. I'm now debating whether I should return these and go with ACL and just do the install myself, save myself quite a few pennies and the fun of wrenching on this thing.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by WestBankM4 View Post
                      The last of the big three is for me to complete my rod bearings. I'm almost 100% certain I can do it, but I'm jittery as it'll be my first time and it's a pretty serious engine component. Anyway, I inquired with a shop and they insisted on only installing OEM bearings so I ended up ordering a set. I'm now debating whether I should return these and go with ACL and just do the install myself, save myself quite a few pennies and the fun of wrenching on this thing.
                      The apprehension is understandable, but it's less daunting than it seems. Take your time, follow the instructions, and you should be fine. I think if someone's done vanos and valve clearances then they should be sufficiently competent. If someone has replaced their oil pan gasket, then they're basically halfway through the project.

                      I recommend getting a good torque wrench. The digital type with the built in angles is nice to have and convenient. Like others have mentioned, just double check you have proper clearance with the torque wrench before you actually try to torque the bolt so you can do one smooth motion.

                      As for which bearings to use, that's personal choice. Seems like people have positive experiences with OE, OE+WPC, and ACL.

                      Just don't forget to add oil when you're done. 😁

                      As another reference, the Turner instructions are linked here (link). In addition to the Turner parts listed in their kit, perhaps consider replacing the o-ring on the oil pickup tube (pn: 11-41-1-401-769, part number 9 in the diagram).

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by WestBankM4 View Post
                        The last of the big three is for me to complete my rod bearings. I'm almost 100% certain I can do it, but I'm jittery as it'll be my first time and it's a pretty serious engine component. Anyway, I inquired with a shop and they insisted on only installing OEM bearings so I ended up ordering a set. I'm now debating whether I should return these and go with ACL and just do the install myself, save myself quite a few pennies and the fun of wrenching on this thing.
                        You removed and reinstalled the cylinder head. You'll be fine lol.

                        Bearing wise, the BMW ones are great if you got them from FCP. Hopefully, the quality and tolerances stay consistent, unlike other BMW parts. ACL tolerances are pretty consistent according to the Redish videos. Would like to see someone pull a set of ACLs with 100k on them before installing a set.
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Slideways View Post

                          You removed and reinstalled the cylinder head. You'll be fine lol.

                          Bearing wise, the BMW ones are great if you got them from FCP. Hopefully, the quality and tolerances stay consistent, unlike other BMW parts. BE is probably just as good if not better and ACL tolerances are pretty consistent according to the Redish videos. Would like to see someone pull a set of ACLs with 100k on them before installing a set.
                          My ACL rod bearings were unbelievably perfect from a sizing (dead center BMW tolerance) and consistency (all 6 indistinguishable) standpoint. Unfortunately, I chose to not use their main bearings bc they don’t offer multiple sizes (like OE does) and I couldn’t match the sizing on my crank mains to within BMW spec.

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                            #43
                            Hey everyone hope all is well

                            Are these the correct ACL's to buy? I am sitting on 111k, i am going to install these as per TIS 11 04 04

                            Where do i get plastigage from ? The bulletin doesn't mention plastigage ??



                            Part number list so far


                            Oil Pump Sprocket Nut(2002 BMW M3 Coupe)(m)
                            Genuine BMW

                            Part #: 07-11-9-905-857-M9


                            O-Ring for Oil Level Sensor
                            Genuine BMW

                            Part #: 12-61-1-744-292-BOE


                            Steering Shaft Bolt (8 X 33 mm)
                            Genuine BMW and MINI

                            Part #: 32-30-6-778-609-M926


                            Seal Ring - Power Steering Lines (16 X 22 mm)
                            Genuine BMW

                            Part #: 32-41-1-093-597-BOE


                            Steering Pipe Seal Ring
                            Genuine BMW

                            Part #: 32-41-1-093-596-BOE



                            O-Ring - Engine Oil Pump to Pickup Tube
                            Genuine BMW

                            Part #: 11-41-1-401-769-M9



                            O-Ring - Engine Oil Dipstick Tube to Oil Pan (15 X 25 mm)
                            Victor Reinz

                            Part #: 11-43-1-707-164-M17


                            Oil Pan Gasket
                            Elring Klinger

                            Part #: 11-13-1-437-237-M30


                            Oil Pan Cover Gasket
                            Elring Klinger

                            Part #: 11-13-7-832-023-M30





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                              #44
                              Originally posted by BL92 View Post
                              Hey everyone hope all is well

                              Are these the correct ACL's to buy? I am sitting on 111k, i am going to install these as per TIS 11 04 04

                              Where do i get plastigage from ? The bulletin doesn't mention plastigage ??



                              Part number list so far


                              Oil Pump Sprocket Nut(2002 BMW M3 Coupe)(m)
                              Genuine BMW

                              Part #: 07-11-9-905-857-M9


                              O-Ring for Oil Level Sensor
                              Genuine BMW

                              Part #: 12-61-1-744-292-BOE


                              Steering Shaft Bolt (8 X 33 mm)
                              Genuine BMW and MINI

                              Part #: 32-30-6-778-609-M926


                              Seal Ring - Power Steering Lines (16 X 22 mm)
                              Genuine BMW

                              Part #: 32-41-1-093-597-BOE


                              Steering Pipe Seal Ring
                              Genuine BMW

                              Part #: 32-41-1-093-596-BOE



                              O-Ring - Engine Oil Pump to Pickup Tube
                              Genuine BMW

                              Part #: 11-41-1-401-769-M9



                              O-Ring - Engine Oil Dipstick Tube to Oil Pan (15 X 25 mm)
                              Victor Reinz

                              Part #: 11-43-1-707-164-M17


                              Oil Pan Gasket
                              Elring Klinger

                              Part #: 11-13-1-437-237-M30


                              Oil Pan Cover Gasket
                              Elring Klinger

                              Part #: 11-13-7-832-023-M30





                              Same as the bearings, you should be able to find the green plastigauge on eBay and most online retailers.

                              Unless you remove the oil level sensor or it is leaking, you won't need that o-ring. Oil pump sprocket nut can be reused. Most people add a tiny dab of red loctite for the nut, but they don't seem to come loose like on the M54.

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                                #45
                                The local specialists who did my s54 and I trust used these (S54 Treated Rod Bearing Upgrade Kit - Late (02/03+) which uses ARP bolts - BM part #WPCS54UK2)

                                For my s65, I used BE +ARP bolts and was happy with the choice. ​

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