Tire options that aren't PS4S

[liam821]

I know I know.. but Michelin PS4S are sold out and back-ordered everywhere and I can't get a set. I need a set of tires, 265/35R18s square, I'm leaning towards the Continental ExtremeContact Sport. But there are a bunch of other options...

Yokohama Advan Apex V601
Firehawk Indy 500
Pirelli P Zero

And probably a bunch more I'm missing...

Thoughts?

[Obioban]

I'd wait.

[Cbouts]

wife has the continentals on her 330 and they've been great. No complaints other than a shorter lifespan but that's expected on a performance tire.

[r4dr]

I know I know.. but Michelin PS4S are sold out and back-ordered everywhere and I can't get a set. I need a set of tires, 265/35R18s square, I'm leaning towards the Continental ExtremeContact Sport. But there are a bunch of other options...

Yokohama Advan Apex V601
Firehawk Indy 500
Pirelli P Zero

And probably a bunch more I'm missing...

Thoughts?

I've got the Conti ECS on my E91 daily driver. Good tires. I've heard they don't hold up as well as PS4S on the track, but if you're just "sport" driving I think they would be great.

[timmo]

I've got the Conti ECS on my E91 daily driver. Good tires. I've heard they don't hold up as well as PS4S on the track, but if you're just "sport" driving I think they would be great.

I can attest to that. My first time at the track and blistered my ECS... 2 decent tires down the cords by the outside sidewall, a combination of overdriving + stock front camber. Meanwhile my friend (who qualitatively overdrove even more) tortured the hell out of his PS4S and those were still okay. But if you're going to the track a lot you won't be buying either of these tires anyways

[EthanolTurbo]

General GMax RS. Comparable to Firehawk Indy 500 but quieter and more comfortable. Extremely good grip, braking, and road manners.

General G Max RS are Continentals, btw.

[Tbonem3]

100% General Gmax if you can't get or afford (not you Liam) PS4S. Or get a TW 200 tire from federal, nitto, hankook if you're in hot climate, want traction, don't care about noise/comfort/longevity.

Conti's are nice, but at a premium. if you going to pay a premium, get Michelin.

[maupineda]

I have been happy with Bridgestone S007A

[Sharocks]

Hankook RS4's.

[lemoose]

Although the difference between PS4S and the Contis is substantial. The difference between the Contis and the rest is about the same IMO. Get the Contis if you cant wait for PS4S to restock.

[liam821]

100% General Gmax if you can't get or afford (not you Liam) PS4S. Or get a TW 200 tire from federal, nitto, hankook if you're in hot climate, want traction, don't care about noise/comfort/longevity.

Conti's are nice, but at a premium. if you going to pay a premium, get Michelin.

The Conti's are a premium, but they're $200 less for a set - $800 vs $1000 for the PS4Ss. But to your point, if you're paying a premium just get the benchmark. If the Contie's are 80% of the tire (and I think they are) it's not a bad deal. I thought about going down the 200TW route, except the whole noise/comfort/longevity is meh, and I live in Oregon and drive in wet weather constantly, perhaps those aren't the best idea for a car that is primarily driven on the street. There are a lot of tires in that category that gives outstanding traction but throws caution to the wind in terms of tire life, comfort, and especially noise. Have you ever driven on a set of Federal 595RRs?? It's like being in a Jeep! Hard pass...

So if we take the tirerack review score, using the PS4S as a benchmark, we can get a price/performance score vs the PS4S.

Yokohama Apex, $740, 85% of the PS4S score, 72% of the price
Conti ECS, $807, 89% of the PS4S score, 78% of the price
PZero (PZ4), $807, 88% of the PS4S score, 78% of the price

The General G-MAX RS are in a different category, so it's apples to oranges but they're 64% of the price and highly rated. I still think I'm going to stick with the Max Performance tire segment though.

There is also the Bridgestone S-04 Pole Positions, but they're getting on in age and still fairly pricey. My red e93m3 had a set of them and they were fine, loud though, and not the best road manners, now I have PS4S on that car and its a huge step forward.

There are a few other tires in the "Max Performance" category, but they all have a much less TW rating, so while they're a bit cheaper up-front it's almost a wash because you'll get half the miles.

You can see why the PS4S is the benchmark... Still, I'm tempted by the Yokohama & Conti ECS because they're still a great tire at a great price.

[liam821]

I have been happy with Bridgestone S007A

Don't make them in a 265/35/R18

Hankook RS4's.

That was my GO-TO tire when I had an s2000. They were great until they weren't. I also only got about 7000 miles on the rears and maybe 20k on the front...I'm older now so perhaps I'd get a few more miles out of a set haha! The Hankook site shows they make them in that size, but tirerack/discounttire don't sell them in that size. I'm not sure if they were discontinued in that size or what.

[yhp2009]

I know I know.. but Michelin PS4S are sold out and back-ordered everywhere
Thoughts?

Tire rack has them "in stock" for the 19in. Unless theyre not correctly updated

Edit: Oops sorry you need the 18inch I need to reads more better derp

[jbfrancis3]

Another vote for wait. SummitRacing says estimated ship date Feb 18th.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/MHL-53791?seid=srese1&gclid=CjwKCAiAsOmABhAwEiwAEBR0ZrSpU0U3aDfbh8u2Fp0qXI-jV4TlnC3RZxyO_bPg2lNT5TJTlZKHzxoCfwwQAvD_BwE

[Jimbo's M]

Whether things have changed or not I have no idea, but I put a set of Hankook V12's on years ago and they sucked SO BAD, I couldn't get them off fast enough. They left such a bad taste in my mouth I'll never try Hankook again, but wouldn't anyway, learned my lesson, Michelin or bust.