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    GB: ATI Harmonic Damper (bought from VAC)

    Since my Harmonic Damper is now 25 years old, I do not want to wait until it fails due to rubber cracks and takes my engine with it.

    Why am I considering this unit?
    - my engine is built for higher rpms than stock, the ATI damper is as well.
    - the stock units are getting expensive

    There's only two real options out right now, a custom adapter kit for a standard ATI Damper and the VAC Unit. The VAC Unit is a plug and play that can be ordered with standard, underdrive, or overdrive crank pulley. The other option requires the installation of an entire pulley kit along with it, since the ATI standard damper is also the crank pulley, but has a considerably larger diameter than the stock S54 pulley. Also it mounts slightly longer towards the front, thereby also requiring the other pulleys to be adjusted accordingly.

    Hence I am going to get the VAC Unit. I know they are not very popular on this forum (to put it mildly), so please refrain yourself from posting how much you don't like VAC. Only respond if you intend to participate or have serious questions.

    I am also ignoring the general consensus on VAC because I have direct feedback from MK here in Germany on these units. Besides selling parts, he also builds engines and supports race teams. He has been using these for years without any issues and puts them into every engine he builds. I was also told it shows an 8HP increase on the dyno vs the stock damper, though I don't really know how a damper will do that, so take that with a grain of salt.

    To the conditions:
    VAC currently offers 10% as part of black friday sales on this unit as well. One of my friends here also wants one, so we are at 2 pieces and will get an additional 2%. If we are getting another one to jump in, we will be getting an additional 5% (15% total).
    Regular price: €956,96
    Price with total discount: €813,40
    Being located in Germany the website shows my pricing in Euro, but the discount percentage will be the same if yours shows in USD.

    Please let me know if you are interested. If there's more than one I will call again to see if I can get more discount possible, but for the sake of getting this done quickly please consider the 15% discount for jumping in. I will place my order at the end of next week, so response deadline is the end of November 27th.

    Here is the link to the unit on the VAC store: https://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac...s54-p3010.aspx
    2002 E46 M3 TiAg Coupé >> full tracktool conversion @m346gt
    2000 986 Boxster S >> ice cream getter
    Past: E46 330Ci, 944S2, 996 C4S

    #2
    You also need their https://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac...ight-p760.aspx

    I looked into this awhile ago, as I always ran dampers on my Hondas and believed in them.

    From what I understand, this ATI damper is literally designed wrong. There's no inner lip, so the belt slides off the pulley and rubs. Do some googling, I was able to find at least 10 people complaining about the same thing.

    If you can find a bunch of posts saying the damper works I'd probably be in, but as it sits right now I'm cool on spending $1300 to have a product that doesn't work.

    I’m preparing my E36 M3 track car for a S54 swap. I’m considering the potential benefits of a aftermarket front crank harmonic damper like ATI or Ross. Also considering what flywheel to use, steel single mass or stock E36 dual mass. leaning towards stock dual mass S52. Interested to hear your thoughts opinions and
    2004 Dinan S3-R M3
    2023 X3M Competition

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      #3
      Originally posted by 9kracing View Post
      You also need their https://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac...ight-p760.aspx

      I looked into this awhile ago, as I always ran dampers on my Hondas and believed in them.

      From what I understand, this ATI damper is literally designed wrong. There's no inner lip, so the belt slides off the pulley and rubs. Do some googling, I was able to find at least 10 people complaining about the same thing.

      If you can find a bunch of posts saying the damper works I'd probably be in, but as it sits right now I'm cool on spending $1300 to have a product that doesn't work.

      https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/s...amper-thoughts
      I did see this threat, but as I mentioned above, MK uses these in all of his builds here in Germany. Since I've seen his motors on multiple occasions and also know how they perform in races, I'm more inclined to use that as a base over the internet. Although I understand if people shy away from it due to not much information on it online.

      This is the only other thing I found on it online:

      He was asked in the comments about the belt one year after the install and he commented no issues with his. Scrolling though his videos I found that his engine failed 27k miles after the build due to oil pump issues (improperly tightened nut on the gear).
      Last edited by Altaran; Today, 04:57 AM.
      2002 E46 M3 TiAg Coupé >> full tracktool conversion @m346gt
      2000 986 Boxster S >> ice cream getter
      Past: E46 330Ci, 944S2, 996 C4S

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        #4
        Give me a call before you order, I'll probably jump in with you to get the 5%
        2004 Dinan S3-R M3
        2023 X3M Competition

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