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Easy enough to design replacement bolt on backing plates that would adapt to a traditional hose - the backing plate should be easily replaceable with the rotor removed, no hub removal required.Originally posted by YoitsTmac View PostWould be cool if your brake duct supported brake cooling hoses.
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Would be cool if your brake duct supported brake cooling hoses.
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Thanks to George Hill (whom I trust greatly with my CAD files) who's already printed one up! Got some good feedback on socket clearance that I'm going to have to incorporate into the keep out space. And he's got so many spare parts that he's probably going to beat me to my own test fit cases
I also forgot to mention I started conceptual designs on a bolt in brake shield. I'll be tweaking it to incorporate a ducting feature that matches my scoop a bit better, and replaces the plastic part that zip-ties to the strut:
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Actual weights from the bathroom scale, without heat shields or ABS sensors, repeatable 3x:
E46 total 14lb = 6.35 kg
E60 total 13lb = 5.897 kg
E60 aluminum knuckle 5.4lb = 2.5kg
so in theory the superknuckle is .15kg heavier than the e60 setup and .3kg lighter than the e46 setup. So no appreciable weight benefit, but definitely a stiffness increase along with a much larger (and stiffer) wheel bearing that happens to bolt in.
I’ve also decided that I’m going to reduce the steering ratio on the next iteration to match the non-m 13.7:1 steering ratio (vs the M3 14.5:1 with the same rack) that I find preferable. After adjusting for wheelbase differences, here are some baseline comparisons from other cars:
911 ST converted to e46: 13.5:1
911 GT3 converted to e46: 12.8:1
E90 M3 converted to e46: 13.3:1
Wife's Macan converted to e46: 13.9:1
So 13.7:1 has some good company, I guess that’s why it feels so nice. The MK60 is easy to program with a write-in steering ratio, so I’ll have to knock that out along with this change as well to keep DSC in its happy place.
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Yeah, I thought about this. I had a hard time coming up with a real number to use here because the tire is a nice spring, and so is the bushing. So the load it sees is maybe 2x the worst case? Worst case being braking and hitting a pothole I think. The part has a safety factor of just under 3 to a 1.6G load of half the car's weight (0 load on rear tires) for this scenario, meaning that it's got to take a 5G+ load wallop to risk permanent deformation. Any experts on modeling suspension impacts here?Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post
What about much higher, peaky upwards loads (e.g. hitting a pothole)? I would think the wheel would see more than 1G upward acceleration in cases like that.
Worst case scenario sounds like steady state cornering and then a sudden upward force at the wheel (e.g. taking a corner and riding the kerbs on track).
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What about much higher, peaky upwards loads (e.g. hitting a pothole)? I would think the wheel would see more than 1G upward acceleration in cases like that.Originally posted by Bry5on View PostI mathed out and ran four load cases:
Worst case scenario sounds like steady state cornering and then a sudden upward force at the wheel (e.g. taking a corner and riding the kerbs on track).
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Okay, on to some results. I mathed out and ran four load cases:
1) 1.6G braking
2) 1.6G cornering, outside wheel
3) ~.8G cornering, inside wheel (more load on inside at lower Gs)
4) 1G braking + 1G cornering, outside wheel
I thought long and hard about these load cases and determined these to be the enveloping ones. Would appreciate any thoughts of other load cases that I may have missed or should consider.
All load cases included a lot of extra tie rod force to compensate for the fact that you can also be turning the steering wheel. You can see that the Fusion FEA spit out some real localized high sresses at sharp edges due to constraints. This is generally expected and not cause for concern as the bulk of the material has very low stress. I opted to run the solver for a stiffness-driven part, as I figured that would give the best steering feedback, and it means that generally the part ended up pretty low-stress.
The part, with just barely enough clearance to install fasteners and get an extension through the top bolts:
The stresses on the part in various conditions ("Load Case 1" is 1.6G Braking):
The displacements:
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And bolt in vs press in wheel bearing.Originally posted by Bry5on View Post
It has an MK60 and 48 tooth wheel speed sensor just like the e46
- I get to keep ABS and traction control.
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Hi Bryson, sorry if I missed it but, besides the material weight benefit, why did you choose e60 design?
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I'm sadly out of town this weekend, but decided to check for clearance in the printer here at home. The knuckle is rather conveniently sized..
This model is 2kg (4.4lb) in aluminum and has a minimum safety factor of 4 under a 2G braking case and 1.6G cornering case.
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Yeah you’re right - can definitely make it simpler at very little weight penalty. I’ll run a few more simulations and computer generated designs then probably CAD a human-made version to compare stiffness and strength properties. I’ve been basically just adjusting the keep-outs and letting the model chug. There’s a new run waiting for me to get home and inspect. You can see how the BMW design sub-optimizes deflection for ease of manufacturing, they definitely left some performance on the table in those castings.Originally posted by YoitsTmac View PostIs this an optimal model generated by CG? The geometric complexity in areas like the tie rod mount look really difficult. Looks like you could keep 10% more material and simplify the shape, no? Cool nonetheless.
This computer generated knuckle may even be small enough to print in my home plastic 3D printer as a mockup, which would be pretty cool, and a handy validation for metal 3D printing.
Before I finalize this, I’ve still got to design a mount for a heat shield and a basic duct for brake cooling. I *think* I can make that from a single brake formed piece of aluminum at this point, but we’ll see.
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Is this an optimal model generated by CG? The geometric complexity in areas like the tie rod mount look really difficult. Looks like you could keep 10% more material and simplify the shape, no? Cool nonetheless.
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