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    #16
    Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

    I would just reuse your DME, flashing back to stock software is as easy as flashing to CSL software. Kassel has a MAP kit (which is what I have on my car), but there are a couple other options, including sourcing the CSL rail or tapping into the brake booster line with an adapter for the sensor. I'm currently running the stock CSL tune and the car runs fine. Waiting to wrap up a couple other projects before putting it on the dyno.

    I personally don't have a flap, but if you want to run one the only thing you have to do is solder a component onto your DME and wire in the flap. Pads are already there for it and it will work out of the box with the CSL tune.
    Did you convert your non HP DME to an HP? 03 here, although I don't have MK20 ABS (I have MK60) so I need to check if I have an HP DME or not.

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      #17
      Originally posted by BMWahba View Post

      Did you convert your non HP DME to an HP? 03 here, although I don't have MK20 ABS (I have MK60) so I need to check if I have an HP DME or not.
      Yes I did. I documented it here: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/s...=2582#post2582
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        #18
        TTFS custom tuned mine on their dyno too. It ran like crap, idled like crap, knocked at certain rpm/load, they even lied about the dyno graph they gave me by manipulating the roller inertia values on the spot then denied they would ever do that.....

        Anyways... Since then I've learned how to tune a bit myself, the paffy/terra CSL tune with non-CSL cam vanos profile is a great start and light years better than anything TTFS ever did and from there you can tweak and tune.

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          #19
          Originally posted by S54 POWER! View Post
          TTFS custom tuned mine on their dyno too. It ran like crap, idled like crap, knocked at certain rpm/load, they even lied about the dyno graph they gave me by manipulating the roller inertia values on the spot then denied they would ever do that.....

          Anyways... Since then I've learned how to tune a bit myself, the paffy/terra CSL tune with non-CSL cam vanos profile is a great start and light years better than anything TTFS ever did and from there you can tweak and tune.
          is the paffy/terra csl software WITH the non CSL cam profile somewhere to be downloaded?

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            #20
            Originally posted by ChipperM3 View Post

            Here’s the simple solution to solve the confusion for those having an issue on a TTFS tune: Walk away from the money you spent and get it fixed by someone else. In my case, It was Paul Claude. My conversion went from running like shite, and there is nothing more we can do according to TTFS, to running perfectly after Paul’s base tune and then a few revisions.

            I’m not trying to start a bash TTFS thread; this was my experience. I realize others have had no issues with them, but I was ready to give up on mine.
            I had a similar experience. My old S50B32 swapped car never ran perfect, then when I installed cams, it ran horrible. Nobody in the US wanted to touch the euro DME, until I found Kassel, who said "sure no problem." I sent my DME to him and he sent one back that ran 1000% better. The car all of a sudden was nice to drive. I then went and had the car dyno tuned at his shop and he found an additional 46rwhp. I would have love to seen the power difference between the previous tune and his dyno tune as my butt dyno felt a huge difference between the tune that came on the car and Kassels initially tune. After his dyno tune the car was a rocket!

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              #21
              Originally posted by nextelbuddy View Post

              is the paffy/terra csl software WITH the non CSL cam profile somewhere to be downloaded?
              I don't know if this is paffy/terra software, but this guy has some csl binaries with the stock cam profiles. I bdm'd one of these to my dme and I'm just waiting on some backordered parts to install my csl box and try it out.

              Gather and organize every bit of available informations about a MSS54/HP to MSS54HP_CSL conversion - YulCmr/MSS54_HP_CSL_Clone_info_gathering

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                #22
                Originally posted by BMWahba View Post

                Did you convert your non HP DME to an HP? 03 here, although I don't have MK20 ABS (I have MK60) so I need to check if I have an HP DME or not.
                I have an early '03 (March) with MK60 but non-HP. Not sure when they switched over.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by skristedja View Post

                  I don't know if this is paffy/terra software, but this guy has some csl binaries with the stock cam profiles. I bdm'd one of these to my dme and I'm just waiting on some backordered parts to install my csl box and try it out.

                  https://github.com/YulCmr/MSS54_HP_C...ll_binary_dump
                  Only the Offset ist changed here for OEM cam‘s, that you can pass the Vanos routine. The Fuel maps are still CSL spec. So your car will run very rich under Full load and a bit Lean under part/light throttle. And of course have less power that before.
                  …under construction.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by S54B32 View Post

                    Only the Offset ist changed here for OEM cam‘s, that you can pass the Vanos routine. The Fuel maps are still CSL spec. So your car will run very rich under Full load and a bit Lean under part/light throttle. And of course have less power that before.
                    I was under the impression that the paffy/terra software had stock csl fuel maps as well?

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by skristedja View Post

                      I was under the impression that the paffy/terra software had stock csl fuel maps as well?
                      Yes, it has stock csl fuel maps
                      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwN...zf45mXp6PDOCzA

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by skristedja View Post

                        I was under the impression that the paffy/terra software had stock csl fuel maps as well?
                        That’s the right, Stock CSL Fuel Maps for stock CSL cams, but no fuelmaps for standard m3 cams.
                        …under construction.

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