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    Hello all, I got into a front end collision on my mostly track car. Slowly transforming into a car that I only take to the racetrack. Long story short, I blew the a/c radiator and all of its compression. If I remove the a/c completely at the front of the car, is there anything I need to be aware of. Do I need this fan anymore? Am I going to trigger a code on the car? Any advice steering me away from doing this also welcome as I’m kinda on the fence about it Click image for larger version

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    #2
    None really, just delete the AC stuff. If you remove the condenser then you can remove all of the fans. It will cool better on track. In fact removing the fans has yielded the largest drop in coolant temps on track. Just need to make sure you do a good cool down, maybe take a lap around the paddock afterwards. BUT...the coolant system won't need as much cool down.

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      #3
      Think it's obvious/implied, but removing all fans means no airflow when standing still, so the car will overheat in that situation. Worth taking into account if the car is not 100% a track car just yet.
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        #4
        Remove A/C completely, remove the fan, remove the mechanical clutch fan and instead install an aftermarket puller fan with controller. So no overheating in paddock and better fresh air flow on radiator
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          #5
          Do you guys do anything to protect your nice radiator from damage? Like rocks

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            #6
            Originally posted by Jersey_M3 View Post
            Do you guys do anything to protect your nice radiator from damage? Like rocks
            No

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              #7
              I added 1/4” steel mesh from Home Depot. Spray painted black to make it more stealthy. It’s protected the parts against large debris, and there are only a handful of bent fins due to small stuff that got thru, as of yesterday.

              In case you decide to use a fan, I wired my SPAL fan to the aux fan wiring (both stock fans deleted). Works great both on and off the track.
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                #8
                Originally posted by SQ13 View Post
                I added 1/4” steel mesh from Home Depot. Spray painted black to make it more stealthy. It’s protected the parts against large debris, and there are only a handful of bent fins due to small stuff that got thru, as of yesterday.

                In case you decide to use a fan, I wired my SPAL fan to the aux fan wiring (both stock fans deleted). Works great both on and off the track.
                Doesn't the aux fan controller vary voltage to control speed? If so, the SPAL fan won't vary speed. Its on/off. You are better off installing a temp switch in the upper radiator hose.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bigjae46 View Post

                  Doesn't the aux fan controller vary voltage to control speed? If so, the SPAL fan won't vary speed. Its on/off. You are better off installing a temp switch in the upper radiator hose.
                  Pretty sure it's a PWM controller. Should work fine with the SPAL.
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by heinzboehmer View Post

                    Pretty sure it's a PWM controller. Should work fine with the SPAL.
                    It will work but it won't vary speeds and I don't think it works as intended. I believe there are specific fan models that are designed for variable speed controllers. I had a high output version SPAL fan from the same line that everyone buys. My coolant temps were better ditching the OEM controller and using a manual switch.

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                      #11
                      Dare I ask what your recommended parts and controllers are for this. Mishimoto looks easy peasy

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jersey_M3 View Post
                        Dare I ask what your recommended parts and controllers are for this. Mishimoto looks easy peasy
                        I used a 34mm adapter which you splice into the upper radiator hose. Find a 1/8” NPT switch and connect it to a 12v SPDT relay. You’ll need to ground the switch.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bigjae46 View Post

                          Doesn't the aux fan controller vary voltage to control speed? If so, the SPAL fan won't vary speed. It’s on/off. You are better off installing a temp switch in the upper radiator hose.
                          Honestly I have no idea. I saw that some people were doing that on the old forum, so I did the same thing. Haven’t had any issues with cooling so far.
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                            #14
                            My SPAL was spliced into the aux controller, by leaving the a/c pressure sensor plugged in, it was variable controlled by ECU.

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