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    #61
    Originally posted by omhl View Post
    Hey everyone,

    I'm trying to create an XDF to share with the forum with the binaries that we are reading from the MSS6X Flasher.

    Just sharing some of my identifying findings using the MSS6X Flasher so far. Hopefully we can identify some more mappings! I am looking for servotronic comfort/sport addresses. pedal throttle map comfort/sport, ignition min(KF TZ VL MIN), WOT Fueling. I won't bother with cold start, o2 dtc stuff since ECUWORX tool can handle that.

    Please share if you have any!

    This is from 241E read.

    RPM Limiter:
    0x6062
    1x8
    16 bit
    Columns: 0x6052

    values:
    8000 8300 8300 8300 8300 8300 8300 8300

    TEMP RPM
    0x6088
    6x1
    columns: 0x6088
    row conversion: (X*0.1)-273.2 to degrees

    -25.0 0.0 25.0 50.0 60.0 80.0
    5000.0 6000.0 6500.0 7000.0 7500.0 8300.

    Vanos Admission:
    0xA862
    16x12 table
    16 bit
    Row: 0xA82A
    Column: 0xA84A
    Conversion: X/10

    stock values:
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 112.0 103.5 97.7
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 113.7 105.0 100.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 113.7 103.9 98.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 113.7 101.1 95.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 118.0 97.0 87.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 123.7 114.0 87.0
    131.0 130.9 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 123.6 116.0 83.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 130.0 127.0 126.0 124.0 124.0 128.1 124.0 115.7 83.0
    131.0 131.0 131.2 130.0 127.0 127.0 127.1 130.0 128.5 122.5 115.7 83.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 130.0 130.0 130.0 130.0 126.6 122.8 114.9 92.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 130.0 124.4 118.1 112.4 93.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 129.0 118.6 114.2 109.3 99.8
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 123.6 112.8 111.6 107.9 104.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 125.8 108.7 99.4 101.3 103.8 108.2
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 122.0 102.0 94.1 96.0 101.5 112.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 121.9 100.1 92.2 95.8 103.5 120.0


    Vanos Admission Heating (KATH):
    0xABD6
    16x12
    16 bit
    Row: 0xAB9E
    Column: 0xABBE
    Conversion: X/10

    stock values:
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 126.8 123.0 109.0 98.5 97.7
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 130.9 129.3 124.0 119.0 110.7 100.0 100.0
    131.0 131.0 129.0 125.6 123.0 120.3 117.0 119.0 119.0 116.7 98.9 98.0
    131.0 131.0 127.3 120.5 117.1 115.8 114.4 117.2 124.8 117.0 95.5 95.0
    131.0 131.0 127.3 120.4 117.0 116.0 115.0 117.3 125.7 117.0 91.0 77.0
    131.0 131.2 127.0 120.0 118.0 116.0 115.0 117.0 125.0 123.7 106.0 77.0
    131.0 130.9 129.1 124.0 118.0 116.5 116.6 119.1 127.0 123.6 111.0 77.0
    131.0 131.3 129.7 125.0 118.0 117.0 117.6 120.6 128.1 124.0 110.7 75.0
    131.0 131.0 131.2 130.0 127.0 127.0 127.1 130.0 128.5 122.5 110.7 78.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 130.5 130.0 130.0 130.0 126.6 122.8 114.9 87.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.3 130.0 124.4 118.1 112.4 93.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.9 129.0 118.6 114.2 109.3 99.8
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.3 123.6 112.8 111.6 107.9 105.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 125.8 108.7 99.4 101.3 103.8 110.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 122.0 102.0 94.1 96.0 101.5 112.0
    131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 131.0 121.9 100.1 92.2 95.8 103.5 120.0



    WOT Ignition Timing KF_TZ_VL
    0x28E1EC
    16x3
    Row: 0x28E1C2
    Column: 0x28E1E6
    Conversion: x/10

    stock values:
    3.0 3.0 3.0
    16.0 16.0 16.0
    20.0 20.0 20.0
    27.0 27.0 27.0
    30.0 30.0 30.0
    30.0 30.0 30.0
    34.0 34.0 34.0
    33.0 33.0 33.0
    33.0 33.0 33.0
    31.0 31.0 31.0
    33.0 33.0 33.0
    33.0 33.0 33.0
    30.0 30.0 30.0
    30.0 30.0 30.0
    30.0 30.0 30.0
    31.0 31.0 31.0
    32.0 32.0 32.0
    32.0 32.0 32.0


    Limp Mode Pedal
    0x28ACC6
    10x1
    Column: 0x28ACB2
    Conversion: x/10

    00 08 16 25 30 35 40 43 46 50
    hi thx for this info
    Do you know where the vanos exhausts are please?

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      #62
      Originally posted by afv View Post
      DTCs

      Each DTC has a 26 byte row

      To delete a DTC, null 3rd to 10th and the 13 byte

      The DTC code is on the 2 first byte, all code id coulb be find on tool32
      Can someone help me with this?

      For example, before was:
      00002B70: 00 16 00 14 00 10 00 0F 00 0D 00 0C 00 05 00 1E

      Based on the above, I changed it to:
      00002B70: 00 16 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

      The DTC came back and wasnt remove.

      Can anyone explain if I did it wrong? Thanks.



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        #63
        Originally posted by tdott View Post

        Can someone help me with this?

        For example, before was:
        00002B70: 00 16 00 14 00 10 00 0F 00 0D 00 0C 00 05 00 1E

        Based on the above, I changed it to:
        00002B70: 00 16 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

        The DTC came back and wasnt remove.

        Can anyone explain if I did it wrong? Thanks.


        Delete the whole string.

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          #64
          Originally posted by Martyn View Post

          Delete the whole string.
          Actually I figured it out. I did not need to remove the whole string. For example for DTC 2B70, it is not at offset 2B70, it's somewhere else in the file (forgot the offset, don't have the file open anymore. That was not clear to me before. Figured it out now and confirmed it's working.

          Can you confirm what the difference between the two methods are?

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            #65
            Any update? im looking for an XDF right now and this is best thread

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              #66
              Originally posted by dmlf View Post
              Here are some other rpm limiters I found :
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              Martyn I noticed that your bin modification tool only lists the "hot" oil rpm limiters, maybe you could add the cold one too !
              hi.
              i think i've found those rev limit parameters.
              ​​Click image for larger version

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              my target is 8500rev, so i did put 8500 to these parameters but when i put 8500 to KL_N_BEGR_TMOT_HEISS engine stalls with warning light on.
              i'm assuming that there is KL_N_BEGR_TMOT_KALT or something?

              do you guys have any idea to solve this?

              ​thanks.
              Last edited by qze; 10-31-2023, 11:43 PM.

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                #67
                Originally posted by qze View Post



                my target is 8500rev, so i did put 8500 to these parameters but when i put 8500 to KL_N_BEGR_TMOT_HEISS engine stalls with warning light on.
                Never had problems like you described.

                Originally posted by qze View Post
                i'm assuming that there is KL_N_BEGR_TMOT_KALT or something?

                do you guys have any idea to solve this?

                ​thanks.
                Yes, there is also a cold map for warming up. They should all be placed close to each other.

                Upload your file and I can have a look.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Tomba View Post
                  Never had problems like you described.


                  Yes, there is also a cold map for warming up. They should all be placed close to each other.

                  Upload your file and I can have a look.
                  hi.

                  i attached with mine.
                  since when i put 8500 to KL_N_BEGR_TMOT_HEISS causes crash. so this binary leaves KL_N_BEGR_TMOT_HEISS 8300.

                  also i'm editing binary with this xdf file.
                  TunerPro definition file(xdf) for Siemens MSS60. Contribute to wilhellmina/MSS60-XDF development by creating an account on GitHub.


                  thanks.
                  Attached Files

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                    #69
                    upload your tune (128kb) file as well. Once you have done RSA bypass you don't need to write the full file again.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Tomba View Post
                      upload your tune (128kb) file as well. Once you have done RSA bypass you don't need to write the full file again.
                      thank you for your advice.
                      Attached Files

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                        #71
                        Try this one
                        Attached Files

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by Tomba View Post
                          Try this one
                          hi

                          it worked like a charm!

                          thank you so much for your help!

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by afv View Post
                            Hello I've merge some info in a text file so I put them here.

                            241E guide


                            V-max map:

                            0xB090-0xB137
                            Full bin offset +7000

                            5x 8x2map, [08 00] separator


                            Stock:
                            00 00 00 01 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 05 00 06 00 07
                            11 60 11 60 11 60 11 60 11 60 11 60 11 60 11 60
                            last:
                            00 00 00 01 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 05 00 06 00 07
                            0F C0 0F C0 0F C0 0F C0 0F C0 0F C0 0F C0 0F C0

                            Full speed:
                            00 00 00 01 00 02 00 03 00 04 00 05 00 06 00 07
                            1F 40 1F 40 1F 40 1F 40 1F 40 1F 40 1F 40 1F 40
                            all
                            Thanks for sharing!

                            Has anyone tried this and can confirm this works to remove the top speed limiter?
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by kaiv View Post

                              Thanks for sharing!

                              Has anyone tried this and can confirm this works to remove the top speed limiter?
                              these are the maps for speed limiting, so yes. changing them will work.

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                                #75
                                Interested in contributing to the xdf, what tools are you all using? WinOLS? TunerPro?

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