What oil?

[karter16]

[Titaniu//M]

BMW 10W-60 from FCP Euro with their lifetime warranty

[Arith2]

And Pennzoil = Shell

Well I wouldn't use shell so I'm good there.

I'm under the impression this Ravenol is more of a track oriented oil. That's kind of how it's marketed.

[terra]

BMW oil = Penzoil

And Pennzoil = Shell

[174bpm]

Found this guy on who tests pretty much every oil ever made. Ravenol 10w-60 performed exceptionally well. His spreadsheets listed under the video are pretty interesting.

[Arith2]

There ya guys go. Ravenol 10w-60 spec. I couldn't type anything else in the post because of the way it transferred.

[Arith2]

Density at 20°C	kg/m³	859,0	EN ISO 12185
Colour		braun	visual
Viscosity at 100°C	mm²/s	23,4	DIN 51 562
Viscosity at 40°C	mm²/s	154,6	DIN 51 562
Viscosity index VI		180	DIN ISO 2909
HTHS at 150°C	mPа*s	5,8	ASTM D5481
CCS Viscosity at -25°C	mPa*s	5900	ASTM D5293
Low Temp. Pumping viscosity (MRV) at -30°C	mPa*s	20.000	ASTM D 4684
Pourpoint	°C	- 54	DIN ISO 3016
Noack Volatility	% M/M	5,8	ASTM D5800/b
Flash point	°C	250	DIN ISO 2592
TBN	mg KOH/g	11,1	ASTM D2896
Sulphated ash	%wt.	1,3	DIN 51 575

[TrackM3]

Currently using Ravenol 10W-60, so far its been great. Oil temps at the track are very reasonable!

[Arith2]

Lead and molybendum are both lubricants.... why would you want less? What defines better?

[C///M]

I'm with you on this. Motul does have some high ZDDP in it though. I'd use Motul. I wouldn't trust 5w-40 in my engine but I think people do successfully. I doubt that crap holds up under heavy load though... especially in Florida.I ordered some that Castrol edge for my new engine, which I kind of cringed over but people have been running it for years so 🙃

Liquimoly is just trash oil. My engine DID spin a bearing while using it. Ceratec probably doesn't work very well either. It's kinda stupid to design oil around additves but hey, people like adding additives for piece of mind when they can just buy good oil.

Oh and BMW oil = Penzoil

I used to be adamant about sticking with Castrol 10w-60, but was seeing high lead and molybdenum. After I switched to LiquiMoly, my Blackstone analysis immediately improved to within perfect levels across the board. My M3 is used mostly for track and is just one data point, but I've been extremely surprised and impressed with my switch to LiquiMoly. 102k original bearings.

[Tbonem3]

I think for something like that to be helpful for newcomers a poll would be nice. So people can just open a thread and see the statistics and decide. What do you think?

I think I was just fuxkin around

[Ceelooboob]

I have used OE BMW 10w60 for the last 5 years.

[Arith2]

Only use castrol edge 10w60 or shell helix racing 10w60. The rest (liqui moly bmw 10w60 etc) do no have the additives needed. Ironically liqui moly does not have moly, Castrol does. Oh crap Tyler you got me to post about oil again

I'm with you on this. Motul does have some high ZDDP in it though. I'd use Motul. I wouldn't trust 5w-40 in my engine but I think people do successfully. I doubt that crap holds up under heavy load though... especially in Florida.I ordered some that Castrol edge for my new engine, which I kind of cringed over but people have been running it for years so 🙃

Liquimoly is just trash oil. My engine DID spin a bearing while using it. Ceratec probably doesn't work very well either. It's kinda stupid to design oil around additves but hey, people like adding additives for piece of mind when they can just buy good oil.

Oh and BMW oil = Penzoil

[rbg]

I think for something like that to be helpful for newcomers a poll would be nice. So people can just open a thread and see the statistics and decide. What do you think?

[TramRam]

I put 5w30 Genuine BMW oil on my M3, makes it go faster like the f80

So I see that you're stepping out in your choice of oil weight too Good! I don't know your reasoning for using another oil weight than 10w60 but I'll assume it's solid knowing the cost of rebuilding these machines. I've spent hours with tribologists of several oil testing companies and my takeaway each time is: 10w60 is 10w60 and 10w40 is 10w40 REGARDLESS of brand! It's somewhat hard to swallow that because I, like most, SWEAR my car 'likes' THIS brand over THAT brand etc. That's one of the reasons why I've called them several times to hopefully talk with a different person to see what THEY say and it's always the same answer. I had my motor rebuilt using the Lang Racing Development modified crankshaft wherein the width of the connecting rod journals are widened by about 20-25% to address the well-known Achilles heel of the S54. BECAUSE I now have this mod I spent a good bit of time looking into alternate oil weights. Blackstone will tell you that we S54 guys are the lionshare of their independent customers so they have a huge database on the results of the oils we run. MOST of us, whose oil they test, use 10w60, but they also have a healthy number of those owners who DON'T. I asked what other weights they see allot and they said: 0w40, 5w40 and 10w40. I asked; "do you see any difference in those weight oils versus 10w60 in how those alternate weights test out?" and they say NO. (I don't recall mention of 5w30 I did not ask.) I've been told several times when talking to Redline Oil engineers who know the S54s well, that 10W60 was 'not the original factory fill' but it was a 'bandaid' and said; IF 10w60 was the fix for thin rod bearings then why do so many engines running it still spin their rod bearings(???) Just food for thought...just wanted to share my discussion results. Peace out. Be safe all.