What oil?

[Arith2]

Many engines have spun bearings while using Castrol so I'm not sure what your point is.

I stated my point clearly and you quoted it.

It's kinda stupid to design oil around additives but hey, people like adding additives for piece of mind when they can just buy good oil.
I should've said "better" to be less absolute. It's all trash we must sift through. What makes an oil better would be the MOS2 included in the base oil without the additives. Everything else is pretty much the same. I believe it makes it more shear resistant and is just a lubricant that sticks to the metal surfaces. I don't claim to be an expert, I'm just a oil keyboard warrior with an opinion.
Seriously though, I'm done with Liquimoly. It wasn't all the oil's fault I had a piston exploded into at least 100 pieces, but it just left a bad taste in my mouth. I also used Ceratec. Still went boom. I'm sure my car will be fine without it. I didn't notice any smooth coating on anything and it was in there for 5,000 miles. I'm just not a believer. They have really good marketing. They have a potent engine flush.

[Dash1]

Liquimoly is just trash oil. My engine DID spin a bearing while using it. Ceratec probably doesn't work very well either. It's kinda stupid to design oil around additves but hey, people like adding additives for piece of mind when they can just buy good oil.

Many engines have spun bearings while using Castrol so I'm not sure what your point is.

[Speed Monkey]

Amsoil wins? Who da thunk it... Penzoil/Twin Power had a respectable showing. Motul and Liqui Moly, not such a good showing, at least when it comes to 5w-30 weight oil specifically. Though 5w-30 is not 10w-60 oil, I would say this is at the very least, it’s a window, or indicator on how a manufacturer’s oil will perform on a different grade oil. For me, I’ll stick with what the BMW Parts Dept. sells over the counter.

[Andy2424]

Helix Ultra Racing 10W-60

[Zekarus]

Lol Motul 8100 10W-60.

+1

[karter16]

[Titaniu//M]

BMW 10W-60 from FCP Euro with their lifetime warranty

[Arith2]

And Pennzoil = Shell

Well I wouldn't use shell so I'm good there.

I'm under the impression this Ravenol is more of a track oriented oil. That's kind of how it's marketed.

[terra]

BMW oil = Penzoil

And Pennzoil = Shell

[174bpm]

Found this guy on who tests pretty much every oil ever made. Ravenol 10w-60 performed exceptionally well. His spreadsheets listed under the video are pretty interesting.

[Arith2]

There ya guys go. Ravenol 10w-60 spec. I couldn't type anything else in the post because of the way it transferred.

[Arith2]

Density at 20°C	kg/m³	859,0	EN ISO 12185
Colour		braun	visual
Viscosity at 100°C	mm²/s	23,4	DIN 51 562
Viscosity at 40°C	mm²/s	154,6	DIN 51 562
Viscosity index VI		180	DIN ISO 2909
HTHS at 150°C	mPа*s	5,8	ASTM D5481
CCS Viscosity at -25°C	mPa*s	5900	ASTM D5293
Low Temp. Pumping viscosity (MRV) at -30°C	mPa*s	20.000	ASTM D 4684
Pourpoint	°C	- 54	DIN ISO 3016
Noack Volatility	% M/M	5,8	ASTM D5800/b
Flash point	°C	250	DIN ISO 2592
TBN	mg KOH/g	11,1	ASTM D2896
Sulphated ash	%wt.	1,3	DIN 51 575

[TrackM3]

Currently using Ravenol 10W-60, so far its been great. Oil temps at the track are very reasonable!

[Arith2]

Lead and molybendum are both lubricants.... why would you want less? What defines better?

[C///M]

I'm with you on this. Motul does have some high ZDDP in it though. I'd use Motul. I wouldn't trust 5w-40 in my engine but I think people do successfully. I doubt that crap holds up under heavy load though... especially in Florida.I ordered some that Castrol edge for my new engine, which I kind of cringed over but people have been running it for years so 🙃

Liquimoly is just trash oil. My engine DID spin a bearing while using it. Ceratec probably doesn't work very well either. It's kinda stupid to design oil around additves but hey, people like adding additives for piece of mind when they can just buy good oil.

Oh and BMW oil = Penzoil

I used to be adamant about sticking with Castrol 10w-60, but was seeing high lead and molybdenum. After I switched to LiquiMoly, my Blackstone analysis immediately improved to within perfect levels across the board. My M3 is used mostly for track and is just one data point, but I've been extremely surprised and impressed with my switch to LiquiMoly. 102k original bearings.