Will miss the combustion engine..

[ELEM3NT]

The new m5 is the best looking one since the e39.

Tesla designs are already looking dated and I don't know where they're going to go from here. I can't help but laugh when I see people in my rearview in model 3s who look like they're sitting on three phone books.

100%. I mean, the model 3 looks okay on profile, but damn that front view is a different story....I laugh every time I see one in the rearview mirror. Makes the Smart car look good.

[Obioban]

.... which is the bad angle?


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[lemoose]

Teslas look like generic videogame cars…. But still better than any of BMWs current offerings

[TexaZ3]

To my eye, the model S is the best looking sedan on sale new today. I don't particularly want one, but I think it's a good looking car (especially compared to what everyone else is putting out these days).

I don't know man, looks like a bloated fish to me. But then again, these things are very subjective. I'd take AM Vantage over that any day.

[sapote]

.I laugh every time I see one in the rearview mirror. Makes the Smart car look good.

+1. The creature has no mouth, teeth, nose.

[Obioban]

I don't know man, looks like a bloated fish to me. But then again, these things are very subjective. I'd take AM Vantage over that any day.

AFAIK that is not a sedan

[02_lsb]

I honestly don't give a shit. I've got all ICEs I'll ever need already.
As long as I can get parts to keep at least one of these on the road, I'm totally fine never buying another vehicle.

wow. That imola m5. Post more imola pictures

[Icecream]

AFAIK that is not a sedan

AFAIK what you posted is not a Model 3 . The little revisions to the Model S have made it look much better thoough, still would rock a Taycan over it.

[TexaZ3]

AFAIK that is not a sedan

Damn right AM is not a sedan. You said model S looks better than most other cars released today, and I can name you at least 10 off the top of my head +/- in the same price range that look better than model S, sedan or not. All Teslas look like bloated fish, and they don't make anything even remotely appealing to me. Their exterior design is absolutely generic and their interiors are definition of terrible - design, materials, and craftsmanship. The powertrain and technology are very impressive, but I don't want to be seen dead in a Tesla. Or any EV for that matter.

[TexaZ3]

wow. That imola m5. Post more imola pictures

You never have to ask me twice to post pix of the Imola But to make it a case in point - this E39, a car designed in the 90's still looks way better than anything Tesla came up with.

Again, appearance is subjective, and some obviously like Teslas. But there are a lot of cars that look SO much better than a Tesla now.
And in 10-20 years when ALL new cars will be EVs with EXACTLY the same/similar technologies/performance - design and looks will be what sells them. And Italians, Germans, and Brits will absolutely kill Tesla in that department.

[02_lsb]

You never have to ask me twice to post pix of the Imola But to make it a case in point - this E39, a car designed in the 90's still looks way better than anything Tesla came up with.

Again, appearance is subjective, and some obviously like Teslas. But there are a lot of cars that look SO much better than a Tesla now.
And in 10-20 years when ALL new cars will be EVs with EXACTLY the same/similar technologies/performance - design and looks will be what sells them. And Italians, Germans, and Brits will absolutely kill Tesla in that department.

look I’m with obioban on the model s, but, wow that imola is gorgeous.

edit: I like it better without tints
Edit 2: you should consider a designated build thread for this car in this forum. It is just stunning.

[TexaZ3]

look I’m with obioban on the model s, but, wow that imola is gorgeous.

Well, we disagree on the Tesla then

[Obioban]

Damn right AM is not a sedan. You said model S looks better than most other cars released today, and I can name you at least 10 off the top of my head +/- in the same price range that look better than model S, sedan or not. All Teslas look like bloated fish, and they don't make anything even remotely appealing to me. Their exterior design is absolutely generic and their interiors are definition of terrible - design, materials, and craftsmanship. The powertrain and technology are very impressive, but I don't want to be seen dead in a Tesla. Or any EV for that matter.

I mean, I did say sedan:

To my eye, the model S is the best looking sedan on sale new today. I don't particularly want one, but I think it's a good looking car (especially compared to what everyone else is putting out these days).

Link to post.

Stylistically, cars should be compared to other cars with the same legal restrictions and practicality. So, best looking current production sedan? I'd say it's the current model S. Do I think it's the best looking car on sale today? No, nor do I think any sedan ever has been or will be-- they're restricted by practicality restraints, instead of style over substance.
(and the model S actually suffers the practicality more than most, since it can be equipped with 3 seat rows/7 seats AND still have a trunk at the same time :P)

The e39 is (IMO) better looking, but it's not in production and couldn't be produced today-- its styling wouldn't allow it to pass modern pedestrian crash standards. It's ultimately also going to be a (probably valueless) paperweight in 10-20 years, when you can't buy gas anymore (gas stations won't exist when there's not people to buy gas from them).

... and IMO the current AM Vantage actually looks way more like a fish than the Tesla it actually competes with (the roadster):

[repoman89]

It is pretty laughable to me that people think that EVs will take over so thoroughly in 10-20 years that gas stations won’t even exist, lol. As if like 70% of people aren’t currently driving cars over 10 years old and could afford to purchase some hypothetical cheap EV even if it does come to exist in a decade. The transition will happen far slower than that. It will be a miracle for the environment if 50% of new vehicles sold in 2030 are EVs.

[Obioban]

It is pretty laughable to me that people think that EVs will take over so thoroughly in 10-20 years that gas stations won’t even exist, lol. As if like 70% of people aren’t currently driving cars over 10 years old and could afford to purchase some hypothetical cheap EV even if it does come to exist in a decade. The transition will happen far slower than that.

What’s going to push it faster than people expect, imo, will be the sudden increase in inconvenience/expense of getting gas.

well, that and $15,000 Chinese EV’s that are half paid for by the $7500 US government rebate on EVs, which help to create the above situation. $7500 new, cheaper used cars with 1/5 the fueling bill and near zero upkeep is a pretty compelling combo for people that would otherwise hold onto old cheap cars.