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    Post your alignment specs!

    This was a topic on the old forum that I really enjoyed reading, especially now that I’m shopping around for coilovers.

    So,
    What are your alignment spec’s?
    What’s your ride hight?
    Any abnormal tire wear?
    How does it handle on the street? On the track?

    Cheers

    #2
    These are my current alignment specs. Got it aligned after installing my Fortune Auto 500s

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      #3
      I saved this straight from m3forum into my notepad:


      CSL specs:

      32 00 Wheel Alignment E46 / M3 CSL

      Observe test conditions

      Front axle:

      Total toe 0° 4' ± 7'

      Camber (difference between left/right max. 30') -1° 45' ± 20'

      Track differential angle with 20° lock on inside wheel -1° 40' ± 30'

      Caster(difference between left/right max. 30') With ± 10° wheel lock 7° 34' ± 30'

      With ± 20° wheel lock 7° 48' ± 30'

      Front wheel displacement 0° ± 10'

      Maximum wheel lock

      Inside wheel approx. ° 40.85

      Outside wheel approx. ° 33.65



      Rear axle:

      Total toe 0° 4' ± 6'

      Camber (difference between left/right max. 15') -1° 50' ± 15'

      Geometrical axis deviation 0° ± 4'



      Heres what I do on my car and I love it for a daily that I take on track.

      -2.5 camber front

      -1.5 camber rear

      0" total toe front and 1/8" total toe rear

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        #4

        Street car
        I like a little toe out up front like 3/64"-1/8" though neutral is fine too, but no toe in.
        -3 camber front, - 2 rear
        3/64-1/8 toe in rear
        Fun setup. Tire wear is of no concern, tires will get old before they get worn with only 1k annual miles.
        DD: /// 2011.5 Jerez/bamboo E90 M3 · DCT · Slicktop · Instagram
        /// 2004 Silvergrey M3 · Coupe · 6spd · Slicktop · zero options
        More info: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...os-supersprint

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          #5
          Originally posted by SteelGreyM View Post
          I saved this straight from m3forum into my notepad:


          CSL specs:

          32 00 Wheel Alignment E46 / M3 CSL

          Observe test conditions

          Front axle:

          Total toe 0° 4' ± 7'

          Camber (difference between left/right max. 30') -1° 45' ± 20'

          Track differential angle with 20° lock on inside wheel -1° 40' ± 30'

          Caster(difference between left/right max. 30') With ± 10° wheel lock 7° 34' ± 30'

          With ± 20° wheel lock 7° 48' ± 30'

          Front wheel displacement 0° ± 10'

          Maximum wheel lock

          Inside wheel approx. ° 40.85

          Outside wheel approx. ° 33.65



          Rear axle:

          Total toe 0° 4' ± 6'

          Camber (difference between left/right max. 15') -1° 50' ± 15'

          Geometrical axis deviation 0° ± 4'



          Heres what I do on my car and I love it for a daily that I take on track.

          -2.5 camber front

          -1.5 camber rear

          0" total toe front and 1/8" total toe rear
          Might have to copy your alignment specs for my daily, any abnormal tire wear?

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            #6
            Yes, all measurements are in red, but my primary request was for even tire wear, and I got it. It has been two years and the wear has been very even and the car is quite neutral. Street only car. No complaints.

            Eibach Pro Street-S Coilovers
            Stock sway bars
            Rac Monolite RG4 wheels
            Continental Extreme Contact Sport (245/35R19 275/30R19)
            Ride height 13.5" front 13" rear

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            Old, not obsolete.

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              #7
              Click image for larger version  Name:	 Views:	0 Size:	64.2 KB ID:	2605 I was going to post a new thread asking for input and criticisms on my alignment setup but I figured it would be best to post here.

              Ground Control Race (sways, coilovers, camber plates)

              525# Front / 650# Rear Eibach springs, 6” long springs, corner balanced but set to almost max. height. Koni adjustables (rebound only)

              Alum rear subframe bushings, poly everything else.

              Square setup 18 x 9.5 ET22 with Hankook RS-4

              2.5 track days / 3 hours on track, 5,000 daily driven miles.

              Impressions: The grip is just immense and the cornering is flat, I love it! This is all relative to what I have owned and driven before but I am pleased with the performance. There is some loss of steering directness and feel due to the alignment and square setup and while it is stable on the freeway, I’d like to reduce camber down to maybe 2.5 degrees up front and increase caster closer to stock (currently more negative caster than stock). I may also set toe just a tiny bit more toe-in.

              Because I only do 1-2 track days a year and love daily driving it, I want to save the tires a bit. i have already flipped the tires because the camber wear was causing some tramlining.

              The handling is very neutral with my driving style and approaching the limit you can feel just the slightest bit of safe understeer. I suspect driving style could change the severity of it, but it is very flat, and very predictable on track.

              Ride quality is better than expected. I do avoid one particular railroad crossing but otherwise daily driving is good and fine with no scraping and only minimal rubbing on the fender liners near full lock on a driveway entrance, nothing remotely alarming.
              The rear spring rates are a bit aggressive for the damping/valving on the Konis. The rear is underdamped and bounces a little on the freeway. This is my least favorite part about the entire setup and am considering dropping the spring rates ~50# each to help match the damping better.
              Attached Files
              Last edited by beefaroni; 03-25-2020, 07:26 PM.

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                #8
                Ride Height (Measured at bottom of rocker)
                Front: 4.5"
                Rear: 4.75

                Camber (CSL front spindles)
                Front: -3.9
                Rear: -2

                Toe Settings
                Front: 1/8" out
                Rear: 1/8" in

                These are recommendations from James Clay at Bimmerworld for my race car. No weird tire wear and the car handles really great on the track. Fair amount of other suspension changes as well to tie it all together.

                Feff
                MVP Track Time

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by props View Post

                  Might have to copy your alignment specs for my daily, any abnormal tire wear?
                  Nope not really. If you never go to the track you can go to no toe in the back for less tire wear. Also less camber if you never track it. Trust me you won’t notice

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                    #10
                    Want to go a little more sport for street on next alignment. What are some opinions of the settings listed here? I'm on Fortune Auto coilovers: https://thebuildjournal.com/tech-gui...t-specs-guide/
                    Interlagos 06 M3, Autologic tune, Agency Power midpipes/exhaust, Fortune Auto coilovers, UUC SSK, Bluebus, Lightwerkz retrofit. MRegistry listing here

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                      #11
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                      Alignment guy said he thinks my drivers front control arm is slightly bent as he couldn't man handle it into position and barely got any change despite working it. Click image for larger version  Name:	20220312_110157.jpg Views:	0 Size:	118.5 KB ID:	158642
                      Last edited by CybrSlydr; 03-12-2022, 08:08 AM.

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                        #12
                        It's strange people are talking about alignment specs in decimals and inches. The rule of thumb and the most accurate way to align a car is with minutes of a degree. 6 minutes of a degree is very capable of causing a pull.

                        For daily drivers, I would highly recommend staying under 2 degrees camber on both front and rear if wear is a concern. The rear toe should be slightly toed in otherwise the toe will end up negative while driving. This will cause understeer which is still bad for a daily. The inside of the tire will also wear faster counteracting the whole reason for a less aggressive set up.
                        This is my Unbuild Journal and why we need an oil thread
                        https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...nbuild-journal

                        "Do it right once or do it twice"

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Arith2 View Post
                          It's strange people are talking about alignment specs in decimals and inches. The rule of thumb and the most accurate way to align a car is with minutes of a degree. 6 minutes of a degree is very capable of causing a pull.
                          6 minutes is exactly equal to 0.1 degrees, and decimals and inches are both perfectly capable of representing arbitrary precision

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                            #14
                            Thats like saying metres are more accurate than feet.

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                              #15
                              If you don't take into account what that 1/8 inch or 1.5mm or other non-angle unit of measure translates into degrees, then he's right. If you have 2 theoretical tires with different diameters - let's just say one with a 50" diameter and one with a 25" diameter - a measurement of "1/8 inch of toe" will translate into different angles.

                              But your point (repoman) is taken - the effects are relatively nominal within the dimensions we're talking about (a passenger car tire), which is why inches or millimeters are generally accepted as "just fine".

                              If you're a nerd and do this yourself, go here and the spreadsheet will calculate everything for you:

                              https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...up-spreadsheet



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