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    #16
    I guess chance I damaged something when installing all of this though I dont see any immediate issues

    I think this is the issue as i had the hose clamps in worse spots and the car really got upset and killed the power - i moved them all to 12 oclock position and now its internment issue with similar error codes

    Is there a way to use inpa to actuate throttle positions?

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      #17
      Originally posted by audipwr1 View Post
      I guess chance I damaged something when installing all of this though I dont see any immediate issues

      I think this is the issue as i had the hose clamps in worse spots and the car really got upset and killed the power - i moved them all to 12 oclock position and now its internment issue with similar error codes

      Is there a way to use inpa to actuate throttle positions?
      Unfortunately not, DIS and presumably ISTA can do it, and if you are a bit tech savvy you can probably figure it out in Tool32 without installing any of the aforementioned.

      But how about a brick on the throttle pedal?
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        #18
        FYI: DIS at this link: https://nam3forum.com/forums/forum/m...418#post208418

        Key point, holds at WOT until told not to.
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          #19
          Originally posted by oceansize View Post

          You can google "bmw hose clamp tool" for cheaper versions.
          Yep, those pliers are made by Knipex (10 99 "ear clamp pliers"). You can get them from amazon for $33.
          These are also used for one-time use Oetiker clamps, like for the power steering hoses.

          For the resuable throttle body clamps for the intake boots, I use these pliers:

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            #20
            This video shows how to remove and reinstall the clamps. Also a link for a tool you can use in the description.

            One of the common complaints when working on this particular engine is that the OE clamps are a pain in the butt; but that’s only if you’ve never used them a...


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              #21
              Neither of those pliers are the right ones, those are all for the single use Oetiker "ear" clamps which are used on the airbox side of the boot.

              The throttle body side of the airbox uses clamps made by Oetiker also, but from their "low profile" catalog, these are reusable and require a plier that has 2 pointy tips that go inside the little holes.
              Removal is probably possible with another type of plier, but installation will be difficult.

              The original plier for this has some tiny teeth that slide perfectly into the holes, see image:

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              However those are quite expensive, especially for the amount of use they would get as these clamps really don't exist anywhere else on this car, not on many other BMW's either as far as I am aware.

              The more budget friendly variant that you want is the Lisle 3500 -> https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-30500-B.../dp/B0002SREB8



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                #22
                Originally posted by bmwfnatic View Post
                Neither of those pliers are the right ones, those are all for the single use Oetiker "ear" clamps which are used on the airbox side of the boot.

                The throttle body side of the airbox uses clamps made by Oetiker also, but from their "low profile" catalog, these are reusable and require a plier that has 2 pointy tips that go inside the little holes.
                Removal is probably possible with another type of plier, but installation will be difficult.

                The original plier for this has some tiny teeth that slide perfectly into the holes, see image:

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                However those are quite expensive, especially for the amount of use they would get as these clamps really don't exist anywhere else on this car, not on many other BMW's either as far as I am aware.

                The more budget friendly variant that you want is the Lisle 3500 -> https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-30500-B.../dp/B0002SREB8


                I just did this install a few months ago. I can confirm the Lisle 3500 paired with 63mm boot clamps (11617831745) is a correct combination.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by audipwr1 View Post
                  hoping for some guidance.

                  Installed turner CSL box - all hose clamps have the worm drives in the 12 o'clock position - yet at 50% throttle I am getting the egas error code and the car starts shuddering (at first I thought it was a bad plug or something, but INPA points to the error 230 egas)

                  It's intermittent too - not every time will the throttle code throw

                  I don't see where they are hanging up the throttle actuators - any hints?

                  Better hose clamp?
                  The CSL clamps are only 7mm low-profile clamps. Which is probably why they were chosen by BMW - 6x 11617831745 CSL Airbox pipe clamps.

                  They can be placed so as not to fowl and mechanical linkage. Although in the six or seven times i have removed and refitted the airbox, they have never fouled anything mechanically. Mine are set to a more 10 or 11 O'Clock position. Mostly because i have been leaning over the car on a sloping driveway when installing them.

                  To gain proper access to the clamps for installation, remove the auxiliary air pipe beforehand, rather than straining like i did, when i first refitted my airbox.

                  The non-compound action Oetiker pliers are good enough and are the actual BMW supplied tool for the job, cheaper than the HIP2000 which i also have
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                  Oetiker CSL pliers - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275999308532

                  Last edited by ac427; 01-10-2025, 08:30 AM.

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                    #24
                    I have used a pair of medium sized needle nose pliers with the small teeth to remove and install the stock clamps multiple times. If you clock them correctly, you don't have to remove the air rail to remove or install them.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by Slideways View Post
                      I have used a pair of medium sized needle nose pliers with the small teeth to remove and install the stock clamps multiple times. If you clock them correctly, you don't have to remove the air rail to remove or install them.
                      I've done it that way too it is just easier with the rail removed.

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