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    #31
    Originally posted by Cubieman View Post
    So whats the general verdict of Cat Cams vs Schicks?
    Never seen anyone have the issue above on schricks 🤪

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      #32
      What gives with basically double the cost for Scricks? Better materials/manufacturing/testing etc?
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        #33
        Originally posted by Cubieman View Post
        What gives with basically double the cost for Scricks? Better materials/manufacturing/testing etc?
        Ability to flex on CatCams peasants lol
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          #34
          Originally posted by Cubieman View Post
          What gives with basically double the cost for Scricks? Better materials/manufacturing/testing etc?
          Probably. There must be a reason schricks are OE I’m so many cars.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Obioban View Post

            I was going to have him tweak my tune this spring/summer, but doesn't seem like I'm going to go able to get on a dyno this year, at the current rate...
            Paul is currently on lockdown working on his race car - he is also in love now lol.

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              #36
              Very interesting replies gents - keep em coming.

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                #37
                Originally posted by M3KVU View Post

                Paul is currently on lockdown working on his race car - he is also in love now lol.
                😂😂

                We'll get you sorted out Kev when you decide on what cams to go for. I would personally like to test the 280/272's as most people come to me with the 288/280's for tuning, so I don't have so much data on the 280/272's to compare.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by paulclaude View Post

                  😂😂

                  We'll get you sorted out Kev when you decide on what cams to go for. I would personally like to test the 280/272's as most people come to me with the 288/280's for tuning, so I don't have so much data on the 280/272's to compare.
                  I'll be coming to you with 280/272 when I can get enough pennies together and find a local dyno to book out and setup a remote session with you

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by STAATS View Post

                    I'll be coming to you with 280/272 when I can get enough pennies together and find a local dyno to book out and setup a remote session with you
                    Sounds good Staats - give me a shout anytime

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by paulclaude View Post

                      Sounds good Staats - give me a shout anytime
                      Already chatted with you via insta but so glad to see you on here! Once cams/headers are in we'll get a tune going.

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                        #41
                        I can confirm the 280 272s are overall better, better average power, more power below 3k rpm. The 288 ties to about 6k then takes over to redline, and makes a smidge more up top from my own testing and cars I've tuned
                        385.7whp 288.8 wtq :
                        -CSL airbox ( custom)
                        -280 272 Cat cams
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                        -Custom Section 1 2 and 3: oversized to 2.5 inch and en E9xM Xpipe
                        -TMS pullies
                        -Electric Fan
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                          #42
                          Will 280 272 cams on a factory manifold with euro extractors/exhaust/ ss race back box make much more power than a standard "euro" s54 after a dyno tune?

                          I dont have funds for full supersprint exhaust and CSL intake.
                          Might be able to do cams and tune.

                          Cheers

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by ClevoCapri View Post
                            Will 280 272 cams on a factory manifold with euro extractors/exhaust/ ss race back box make much more power than a standard "euro" s54 after a dyno tune?

                            I dont have funds for full supersprint exhaust and CSL intake.
                            Might be able to do cams and tune.

                            Cheers
                            I am also interested in this! I was planning to run the euro header with 280/272, and an airbox down the road. From what I have read, the cams net you somewhere between 15-20hp, with a nicer power curve.

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                              #44
                              Originally posted by HassanEido View Post
                              I can confirm the 280 272s are overall better, better average power, more power below 3k rpm. The 288 ties to about 6k then takes over to redline, and makes a smidge more up top from my own testing and cars I've tuned
                              have you done same engine with both cam sets with no other changes other than the appropriate tune for each?

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                                #45
                                Originally posted by ClevoCapri View Post
                                Will 280 272 cams on a factory manifold with euro extractors/exhaust/ ss race back box make much more power than a standard "euro" s54 after a dyno tune?

                                I dont have funds for full supersprint exhaust and CSL intake.
                                Might be able to do cams and tune.

                                Cheers

                                I am no expert like Paul and Hassan but through the very long list of reading I did I am lead to believe that each piece of the puzzle (cams, cf airbox, stepped headers & supporting exhaust) will provide performance gains on their own in isolation when tuned for correctly but the gains will be greater when combined. So there is definitely logic to build them up on each other if money doesn't allow the whole gambit in one hit (although buying in one hit and custom tuning once is more cost effective overall - its a large outlay upfront is all)... ie get the cams and tune now and then buy an airbox or exhaust setup when you get the money and re-tune etc making more power at each additional stage.

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