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It looks and feels nice. I got the 200 cell cat version. In the online pictures the two pipes are attached together. Mine came separate. Maybe I’ll have the shop tack weld them together, I dunno.Originally posted by M3stow View PostAny initial thoughts on quality? Looks decent enough from the photo
For the price of everything the cats can’t be top notch.
Fitment is the next test.
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Thanks for letting us know. Yeah I would have used higher quality cats and charged a little more.Originally posted by theOracle View Post
It looks and feels nice. I got the 200 cell cat version. In the online pictures the two pipes are attached together. Mine came separate. Maybe I’ll have the shop tack weld them together, I dunno.
For the price of everything the cats can’t be top notch.
Fitment is the next test.
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If they aren’t attached could you put the squiggly side on the drivers side for US catted headers? I’m seriously considering the 200 cell. Do you have any pictures of the cat inside?Originally posted by theOracle View Post
It looks and feels nice. I got the 200 cell cat version. In the online pictures the two pipes are attached together. Mine came separate. Maybe I’ll have the shop tack weld them together, I dunno.
For the price of everything the cats can’t be top notch.
Fitment is the next test.
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Why not try a Z Pipe for this section, you might actually make more power. https://lpsfab.com/collections/formula-z
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these have been shown to be a gimmick when tested properlyOriginally posted by 332 View PostWhy not try a Z Pipe for this section, you might actually make more power. https://lpsfab.com/collections/formula-z
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Fluid Motor Union did a dyno test on them, against their x pipe, it gained 3whp. That is 3whp over their X pipe, so against stock lets just say 5whp? Section 1 on e46 m3's don't make power, this has the potential to make power and SOUND better. Since this is all about sound thread, this part fits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMdjIsnrPM&t=1sOriginally posted by digger View Post
these have been shown to be a gimmick when tested properly
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Once you're past the where the primary pipes merge into a 3-1, or 6-1 etc the system really just shapes the torque curve below the peak torque rpm. If the system is overall highly restrictive then yes there can be gains at top endOriginally posted by 332 View Post
Fluid Motor Union did a dyno test on them, against their x pipe, it gained 3whp. That is 3whp over their X pipe, so against stock lets just say 5whp? Section 1 on e46 m3's don't make power, this has the potential to make power and SOUND better. Since this is all about sound thread, this part fits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMdjIsnrPM&t=1s
So noting the observations
- 3hp (0.6%) is within the noise of system when you look at how the runs repeat back to back so there is nothing to see here from power perspective
- the Z lost the same or slightly more in the middle so it isn't scavenging better as that would be where a real difference would exist if it was scavenging better
- the X-pipe in question isnt even a good design due to the included angle (a necessary evil on a V8)
it makes perfect sense that nothing significant happens its fundamentally the same
The X-Y-Z-H pipe is not the place to spend uber money for topend power its a bottom end and mid range thing, probably do ok for IG likes;
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The owner is a scumbag that went nuts on customers after a dyno was done proving this thing has zero gains. It's in the E39 M5 Owners FB Group. Do not recommend.Originally posted by 332 View PostWhy not try a Z Pipe for this section, you might actually make more power. https://lpsfab.com/collections/formula-zInstagram: @logicalconclusion
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