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    Weird tapping noise, pretty sure its not VANOS

    Hi everyone! My car developed this weird tapping noise from the timng chain area on the intake side recently. I originally thought it was the valve shims but after completing them I still hear a noise while turning the motor over. The VANOS on the car was done ~10k miles ago and the upper chain tensioner was done ~1k ago. It sounded very similar to this car when it was running but I don't have a video of my car: https://youtu.be/mY-toVFeEFQ. If anyone's experienced anything similar, please let me know!!


    Turning the motor over:


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    Last edited by Nexite; 12-19-2025, 08:09 PM.

    #2
    How long has the engine oil been in there ?

    splined shaft bearing axial play / worn diaphragm springs or worse,

    Your sprocket sleeve bolts are loose or snapped (07-12-9-905-536)

    Your shop should honour that as a warranty job, i would take it back

    Last edited by BL92; 12-20-2025, 12:42 PM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Nexite View Post
      I still hear a noise while turning the motor over.
      From the noise when manual rotating the engine, I think you need to open the VC and look, something catching the chain in the chain cover.

      BTW, 13 hrs to replace a bunch of vanos parts is too much, for $100/hr



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        #4
        No new Exhaust Sprocket Hub either ? Broken Tab ?

        Oil pump disk could still be reused with new holes or not ? So core charge should of been refunded ?

        Could of just swapped it out for an enitre new core that beisan offers, would of saved labour and you would of gotten a new soleniod pack

        Wouldn't be running old oil through a new Vanos either
        Last edited by BL92; 12-20-2025, 02:51 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by BL92 View Post
          No new Exhaust Sprocket Hub either ? Broken Tab ?

          Oil pump disk could still be reused with new holes or not ? So core charge should of been refunded ?

          Could of just swapped it out for an enitre new core that beisan offers, would of saved labour and you would of gotten a new soleniod pack

          Wouldn't be running old oil through a new Vanos either
          Oil was changed when the VANOS was done, rod bearings were done at the same time. I've attached the whole invoice. This was done by the previous owner thankfully so I didn't pay these rates haha. I also did engine oil less than 4k miles ago and was going to do it right after the valve shims.

          Do you think it is something VANOS related? To me it sounds like something in the timing cover is rubbing on the chain. I am not too familiar with all the different parts of the VANOS system.
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            #6
            Originally posted by sapote View Post

            From the noise when manual rotating the engine, I think you need to open the VC and look, something catching the chain in the chain cover.

            BTW, 13 hrs to replace a bunch of vanos parts is too much, for $100/hr


            The video of the motor being turned over by hand is my car, I can't see anything touching the chain but if there is it's probably just lower down in the timing cover

            Edit: Wait is VC vanos cover?
            Last edited by Nexite; 12-20-2025, 03:41 PM.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nexite View Post
              .
              Do you think it is something VANOS related? To me it sounds like something in the timing cover is rubbing on the chain. I am not too familiar with all the different parts of the VANOS system.
              Check

              splined shaft bearing axial play

              worn diaphragm springs

              Your sprocket sleeve bolts are loose or snapped (07-12-9-905-536)​

              Exhaust Hub tabs broken

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                #8
                Originally posted by Nexite View Post

                The video of the motor being turned over by hand is my car, I can't see anything touching the chain but if there is it's probably just lower down in the timing cover

                Edit: Wait is VC vanos cover?
                Valve Cover

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                  #9
                  Check tha the rocker arm retainers are not contacting anything, also inspect valve springs for any that may have cracked. I don’t thinkE VANOS would make any noise by torning the angine by hand. I would also check that the old chain guide did not break and a piece was left down there. If the noise coming from the top of may it be low down? Could also be any of the other chain guides

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                    #10
                    Check the valve shims are seated

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by BL92 View Post

                      splined shaft bearing axial play

                      worn diaphragm springs

                      Your sprocket sleeve bolts are loose or snapped (07-12-9-905-536)​

                      Exhaust Hub tabs broken
                      Sorry but none of these parts can cause the noise when OP rotated the engine slowly in one direction.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BL92 View Post
                        Check the valve shims are seated
                        Seated or not it can't cause the continuous noise while turning the crank 360.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nexite View Post
                          I can't see anything touching the chain but if there is it's probably just lower down in the timing cover
                          You can't see the lower chain guide condition until the cam sprockets are removed and then look down.

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                            #14
                            I couldn't figure the problem out, ended up trailering to a close friend's shop. The noise disappeared after trailering, it was run for almost an hour. I feel like it'll be back but not much I can do about it for now.

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